Tren E and Var

[patdiddy]

Hey guys just wanted to say that Ive been reading on this board everyday for about 2 months and I wanted to thank everyone for the great info. Now let me tell you about myself. I am 22 years/ 5'11 and 213 pounds. I have been training for about 6 years. I think my body fat is around 15%. I am getting ready to start my third cycle and this is what I got. 1 10ml Tren Depot 200 BD and 150 anavar 10 ml Bd. Wanted to know what your opinions were on dosages or if i need more.

1-8 Tren 250ml week
2-4 30ml var
4-8 40ml var

Now my goals are to harden up a little. My diet will be very clean and my cardio will be 5 days a week at 45 min sessions. Gaining size is not my goal here. I want to lean up a little. Do you guys think I need more var? Again I know Diet and cardio is more important then what gear I take. I will keep both on point. Any advice is appreciated.

 

[patdiddy]

O yea im still working on my PCT.

 

[rick_hfh]

I am thinking two togather after a few cycles also, look forward to hearing you results. I have heard that tren ace is the way to go since you have not ran it before. Some react hashly to tren, that way with the longer ester it can be out of your system in a few days as opposed to a few weeks. A lot of guys recommend running it with test, which I plan to do. As far as the var doses, I have read good results at 40 mg, but I have not ran it so I would also like to hear others opinions.
Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[used2juice]

Just do the var bro. 250mg of tren enth weekly isn't gonna do a whole lot for you besides give you a crappy libido for months, especially without test. Next time just plan things out a lil better instead of just trying to get your hands on whatever you can. Reading this board for two months, you should know that guys get pretty harsh on those who have poorly planned cycles. So just try the var out, some guys do really well on 40mg daily for 8-16 weeks. My advice though, is to honestly just keep it all, get some test, and come back with a little better cycle plan. Lots of guys running tren right now, so start looking at how they are doin it.

 

[patdiddy]

Well I was thinking of adding some test prop to it but I thought I can reach my goals with the Tren and Var. Ive been seriously considering adding prop to it. You think it would help me hit my goal. I wanna put a little bit of size on and lean up a little to. Getting lean is more important to me. And aren't the sides pretty bad if you take tren at a higher dosage.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

tren ace and prop is the answer to most questions IMO. What's a great cycle to add some size? Tren and prop. What's a great cycle if I'm going to restrict calories and get lean? tren and prop. What do I want Santa to put in my stocking at Christmas? tren and prop. I think var is over-rated for men. Great for women but for the money var just falls short. I think if you're doing 60-80mg per day of var you'd be ok but 30mg is just not enough. Too low on the tren as well. This is your 3rd cycle so you're addicted anyways so if you're going to do it do it right. 500mg tren per week and 100mg prop EOD. I would personally have gone with tren ace 75mg ED and prop 100mg EOD.

 

[patdiddy]

Aright check this out blue, I can up the tren to 500mg for 8 weeks. but ur saying dump the var for prop? Or should i go with the tren500mg and up my var to 60mg. it looks like tren and prop has done a pretty good job with you so now im leaning on flipping the var to a friend and ordering some test prop. How much do I need? The Bd prop comes in 20ml bottle. Keep in mind this will be my first time on it. and i only wana run the tren for 8 weeks. thx 4 the help bros

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

bro if you can flip the var and get prop that would be the ticket. 8 weeks of tren and 8 weks of prop would be killer. Go ahead with 500mg of tren and hit 100mg eod with the prop. You could bump the prop to 100 ed but I think 350mg per week of prop along with the tren will be cool. If you were bulking I'd say up the test but your trying to lean up so you just don't need the higher dose. So yeah, flip that var for the prop and you'll be ecstatic with the results.

 

[patdiddy]

sounds good blue. Thx 4 the advice. Im probably 2 weeks away so ill keep you posted on my results. Plus the test should help me in bed

 

[patdiddy]

hey blue what do you think i should take for my PCT.

 

[ALIN]

I would not run any Tren without some testosterone.

 

[AhMadKooL]

sounds good blue. Thx 4 the advice. Im probably 2 weeks away so ill keep you posted on my results. Plus the test should help me in bed

Good advice by Blue; I would add, that if you wanna do the Var still, do it atleast 60mg ED.

Anti - gyno: Aromasin, Dostinex

PCT: Aromasin + Nolva, Clomid and HCG

 

[patdiddy]

im gonna drop the var and go with
week 1-10 test prop 300mg
week 1-8 tren e 500mg.

Thx 4 the advice ahmad. Is all that a must for PCT or can i get away with
Anti-gyno Dostinex
PCT: Nolva snd clomid

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

im gonna drop the var and go with
week 1-10 test prop 300mg
week 1-8 tren e 500mg.

Thx 4 the advice ahmad. Is all that a must for PCT or can i get away with
Anti-gyno Dostinex
PCT: Nolva snd clomid

That-a-kid. You'll be happy.

 

[AhMadKooL]

im gonna drop the var and go with
week 1-10 test prop 300mg
week 1-8 tren e 500mg.

Thx 4 the advice ahmad. Is all that a must for PCT or can i get away with
Anti-gyno Dostinex
PCT: Nolva snd clomid

If your gyno prone from test then use Aromasin; if your prone to progesterone induced gyno then use Dostinex; If your prone to both then use both Aromasin and dostinex.

As for PCT: I would definetly recommend HCG since it helps in getting your "boys" back up to size asap; and also helps in restoring natural test levels so that you keep more of your gains.

 

[fcfmuaythai]

blue gave excellent advice. test prop and tren are the best together!

 

[rick_hfh]

tren ace and prop is the answer to most questions IMO. What's a great cycle to add some size? Tren and prop. What's a great cycle if I'm going to restrict calories and get lean? tren and prop. What do I want Santa to put in my stocking at Christmas? tren and prop.

Lmao. I dig the simplistic approach. Maybe Santa will bring me some.