i think its best with something like tren to tread the water a bit first... what may seem low to seem may seem fucking gigantic to others... you can always move up but it really can do damage if you start too high... tren is the last thing to push from the jump bro... just ease yourself into it and then gradually move up... you don't have to take a weak ass dose but do something more moderate at first, 300-350 and see how that goes...