Tren Depot (Para) dosage... advice

[Alpine`]

Planning on trying Tren for my 3rd cycle.

1-5: Dbol 30mg/day
1-10: BD Tren Depot (200mg/wk) aka Para
1-12: Iranian Test Enanthate (500mg/wk)

My question is do you think this is enough Tren to get a decent response?
The cost of Under Ground Lab Tren is insane. Basically the choice is if I should get another vial or not for 300mg/wk. Obviously a higher dose will probably give better results. But I'd like to run the smallest amount while still getting a decent response for my first time. I just want to be sure Im taking enough that I can actually see some of the Tren benefits rather than if it was just like any other test cycle.

The standard recommended Tren Acetate does for first timers is 75mg EOD or 225mg/wk roughly.
With the Tren Depot it seems 200mg/wk would be enough although IF its slightly underdoses it could be as low as 185-190mg/wk..

Also Ive seem some posts where people claim to get the same response from a Tren Enanthate (or a Para) that you would from an Acetate - you need to run higher dosages. This really doesnt make sense as Tren is Tren it would seem - besides the slightly higher ester weight calculated in.

Is the extra 100mg/wk of Para worth the extra cash? If money wasnt an option I'd run 300mg obviously. But one more Vial adds a lot more cost - that shit is super inflated.
Anyone had cycle experience with 200mg/wk of Tren Depot or enanthate?

 

[Retabolil2]

You will need at least 3cc of tren depot per week bro. Its a fact that you need higher volume when inject long acting esthers.
However tren depot is not that expensive in my opinion. same price as BD trenabol, mg for mg of course. as Trenabol depot is 100mg/1ml and trenabol is 75mg/1ml.

Planning on trying Tren for my 3rd cycle.

1-5: Dbol 30mg/day
1-10: BD Tren Depot (200mg/wk) aka Para
1-12: Iranian Test Enanthate (500mg/wk)

My question is do you think this is enough Tren to get a decent response?
The cost of Under Ground Lab Tren is insane. Basically the choice is if I should get another vial or not for 300mg/wk. Obviously a higher dose will probably give better results. But I'd like to run the smallest amount while still getting a decent response for my first time. I just want to be sure Im taking enough that I can actually see some of the Tren benefits rather than if it was just like any other test cycle.

The standard recommended Tren Acetate does for first timers is 75mg EOD or 225mg/wk roughly.
With the Tren Depot it seems 200mg/wk would be enough although IF its slightly underdoses it could be as low as 185-190mg/wk..

Also Ive seem some posts where people claim to get the same response from a Tren Enanthate (or a Para) that you would from an Acetate - you need to run higher dosages. This really doesnt make sense as Tren is Tren it would seem - besides the slightly higher ester weight calculated in.

Is the extra 100mg/wk of Para worth the extra cash? If money wasnt an option I'd run 300mg obviously. But one more Vial adds a lot more cost - that shit is super inflated.
Anyone had cycle experience with 200mg/wk of Tren Depot or enanthate?

 

[Lowest]

You can get great results with 2cc's a week, I did. It was tren enanthate, not the parabolan ester, but basically the same, long-acting tren. I tried it once at 600mg/week and it damn near KILLED me by the 4th week! DO NOT try to take the same equivalent mg's with a longer ester that you would with tren ace, at least not till you know how it'll affect you. 200mg/week should be enough to get good results... sure 300 would be better but 200 will do it.

 

[Ulter]

It's a lot stronger so you can get by on 300-400mg/wk. I used 400mg the last time.

 

[Alpine`]

Is it as hard on hair as some ppl claim? (assuming your are prone to MPB that is)
Some refer to it as the worst thing for hair while others dont seem to think its so bad. I know its highly androgenic but is it any worse than a moderate dose of Dbol or Test? I plan on using finasteride and topicals throughout the cycle and onward.

Anyone have major loss due directly to a Tren cycle of comparable dosages?

 

[goldenthree]

The only study I've seen said tren was about 3 times as androgenic as test.

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Pharmacological and endocrinological studies on anabolic agents.

Neumann F.

When used in connection with animal production the term "anabolic agents" covers a wide range. Ther steroidal male and female sex hormones are included in this list, as are the nonsteroidal estrogens. For the clinician and for the endocrinologist, anabolics are only steroids chemically related to testosterone and 19-nortestosterone. Estrogens, though possessing anabolic properties, too, do not belong to this class. This paper will deal with anabolic agents in in the stricter sense of which mainly trenbolone acetate combined with hexestrol has been recommended for bull and heifer fattening. To consider possible consumer injury from ingestion of meat from anabolic agent treated animals, it is necessary to know the pharmacological properties of the agents, the doses producing certain effects or might produce, and the levels of residues in the meat. Trenbolone acetate will be compared with the following anabolic agents: methenolone acetate, methandrostenolone, nandrone, androstanazole, and 19-nortestosterone. The activity spectrum of trenbolone acetate is similar to that of 19-nortestosterone or those anabolics that are derived from 19-nortestosterone. The compound has about three times stronger androgenic effect than testosterone propionate. Its index of dissociation between anabolic/androgenic activity is 2--3. This index is 3--10 for the other anabolic agents. As regards the virilizing potency, trenbolone acetate is also on the top of the list. It seems that androgenicity and degree of virilization run paralle. The antigonadotropic activity (inhibition of ovulation and testicular growth) of trenbolone acetate exceeds that of testosterone propionate by the factor 3. The compound is not estrogenic and seemingly not or only weakly progestationally active. In principle, the androgenic activity (symptoms of virilization) as well as the antigonadotropic effect (disturbances of the menstrual cycle in women, inhibition of spermiogenesis in men) of trenbolone acetate might be noted. This risk, however, can be excluded by mere calculation. In rats, 0.1 mg/kg trenbolone acetate have an antigonadotropic effect. This corresponds to a daily dose of 5--7 mg in humans. By the same extrapolation, a daily human dose of 100 mg can be calculated for androgenic activity. Such factors of conversion are, of course, not precise because rats are much less sensitive to androgens and anabolics than humans. Thus, testosterone propionate is active only in daily doses of 10--20 mg. If in humans trenbolone acetate also has three times the activity of testosterone propionate, effects in man had to be counted with not less than a daily intake of 3--5 mg trenbolone acetate. The dose which is recommended for livestock fattening is 300 mg. IT can, therefore, be excluded almost with certainty that the meat would contain such large amounts of hormone residues.

 

[new guy needs help]

You can get great results with 2cc's a week, I did. It was tren enanthate, not the parabolan ester, but basically the same, long-acting tren. I tried it once at 600mg/week and it damn near KILLED me by the 4th week! DO NOT try to take the same equivalent mg's with a longer ester that you would with tren ace, at least not till you know how it'll affect you. 200mg/week should be enough to get good results... sure 300 would be better but 200 will do it.

hy u seem that you know what you are talking about ... im about to start my first cycle (EVER) and i got trenabol 100 mg , naposim and test prop my goal is to get lean mass ... 200mg/week should be enough but 300 would do better as u said ... anw is it safe 4 me to take 300 mg per week ? my plan was to take 1cc monday and 1 cc thursday for 10 weeks and 10x

 

[theemperor]

Tren Depot is not something to play with, its for very experienced users. Excellent results but also strong side effects. In a short take, Tren Enanthate is powerful in itself, bigtime strength, aggression is strong, gains are awesome but the sides can be strong as well with anxiety, sleepless nights, and the all known of night sweats! Remember, Enathate is a long esther that takes the body a good while to exit the steroid. Tren Ace, is fast acting and rids from the body very fast. IMO, 200 mgs was enough for me, and 300 mgs is taking it to another level,,but thats just me.

Get ready for your ass to burn, LOL.....