Tren and tiredness - whats up?

[Mr. Pink]

Let me first say hello to all my fellow members. Having been in the game for about a decade I have done my share (and your share) of aas. I hope to not only learn but to also teach and add what I can to the assortment of topics discussed on this board.
Now to my question. Currently I am running a tren only cycle. At 100mg ED. Generally I am a “test is best” kind of guy who has been known to like his “breakfast of champions” dbols. But I have had such great results when I added tren to the mix, that I wanted to know what type of gains I would get if I only took tren. Last time I ran tren was with sustanon, and thus I did not experience the extreme tiredness I am dealing with. I mean if I sit down I could go to sleep. Also I could sleep forever. I have read about tren making people tired, how do you combat this? I really do not want to be popping ephedrine all day as it makes me sketchy and kills my appetite. Any thoughts??/ suggestions??

 

[anabolic24/7]

Even with test in a large amount tren does this to me. I believe it puts alot af stress on the body hence the remarkable gains in so short a period.

 

[BBSweet]

Are you getting enough easily digestable calories. Alot of fat can weigh you down.

 

[anabolic24/7]

Eating clean will relieve alot of the symptoms of fina, such as the night sweats. The tiredness seems to persist though.

 

[javaguru]

Tren alone kills my libido and the tiredness is erratic with me. Some days I'm up and some days I'm not so up. On a test only cycle I'm always energized. I swear that test at 500mg+ per week is the greatest anti-depressant ever.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Are you getting enough easily digestable calories. Alot of fat can weigh you down.

like i said, I've done my share of cycles and I have read just about every book out there on the subject. My diet is dialed in/ perfect. my only problem is my appetite. not so great sometimes. its just this tiredness. I've got a couple amps of 250 lying around. If I pumped one in my would this help. only reason I ask is that my test levels are probably supprsssed, and I know when I did a cycle of test and fina I was fine.
any thoughts on that one
and no I'm not just looking for any excuse to inject more shit into my body! though it does sound appealing!

 

[drgoodbody]

Tren without Test = Rookie move

Run some test, and the problems will improve (although they may not go away entirely).

DrG

 

[Mr. Pink]

Tren without Test = Rookie move

Run some test, and the problems will improve (although they may not go away entirely).

DrG

I think that’s a little harsh to call it a rookie move. Like I said last time I did tren was with test. Gains were great. after all I read here and on other forums about people and how great tren worked alone for them, as well as all the posts about how tren is the strongest a.s. (Depending on who you ask) and the polls I have seen where tren has been rated peoples favorite steroid, I wanted to see what gains would be like alone. And let me tell you, there fucken’ great.
Pre tren stats –
5’ 9”
218lbs
11% BF

3 weeks at 100mg ED
5’9” – regrettably no change
222lbs
10%BF

I suspected that I would not see that great an increase in weight but I’m much more vascular and my strength is gone through the roof. Each time I go in the gym now I’m really not sure what weight to do since it is more than last week
Definitely a few reps on every exercise along with 15lbs on max bench
Ive only got about 3 weeks left in the cycle, just a short one. (I like nelsons idea) if I throw in some test will it not take the usual 3 weeks to kick in as it does for me and at that time im done the tren – you see where im going here. What is a guy to do??

 

[NorCalBdyBldr]

why not use some faster acting test like test suspension or test proprionate if you can get any? And who says that you only can run tren for six weeks? I think it depends more on how long you get results from it and how long you can stand sticking yourself ED or EOD, whichever is the case.

I would only use tren stacked on top of test since tren depresses natural test levels.

I used tren together with test and the results were amazing. I normally don't gain much on cycle but don't tend to loose much of anything either off cycle. Even using a gram of test per week doesn't phase me much but when I used tren with test, I gained 20 lbs in about eight weeks on and didn't loose much off either. So it made a believer out of me. That was the only cycle of it that I have done to date and can't wait until I can cycle back on again in the fall.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

I have found the tiredness subsides after two weeks or so... then I get the opposite effect.