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Tren and Stanz Study

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Biochem J. 1983 January 15; 210(1): 243–249.
F J Ballard and G L Francis

Protein degradation in rat L6 myoblasts is inhibited by high concentrations of insulin as well as by foetal bovine serum and bovine colostrum, mixtures rich in growth-factor activity. 2. Growth factors achieve maximal effects within 2 h after addition to the cell cultures, but these diminish with time. Indeed, during incubations greater than 12 h, foetal calf serum actually stimulates protein breakdown. The changed response, however, is not due to the depletion of growth factors from serum. 3. Protein breakdown is stimulated by dexamethasone by a process that takes several hours to be expressed, but is more pronounced over a 4 h measurement period than over 18h. The glucocorticoid response is prevented by insulin or by cycloheximide. 4. Anabolic agents such as trenbolone, diethylstilboestrol and testosterone do not alter rates of intracellular protein breakdown and do not interfere with the glucocorticoid-induced catabolic response. 5. The results are consistent with anabolic steroids and related agents acting indirectly on muscle, perhaps via altering concentrations of growth factors of the somatomedin type


Can J Vet Res. 2000 October; 64(4): 246–248.
M E Olson, D W Morck, and K B Quinn
The effect of stanozolol on 15nitrogen retention in the dog.
The objective of the study was to determine the influence of either oral or intramuscular administration of stanozolol on nitrogen retention in dogs by using a non-invasive 15N-amino acid tracer technique. Ten healthy, intact, adult male sled dogs received either stanozolol tablets, 2 mg/dog PO, q12h, for 25 days (Group 1, n = 5) or an intramuscular injection of 25 mg of stanozolol on Days 7, 14, 21, and 28 (Group 2, n = 5). A 15N amino acid (5.27 mmol) was infused intravenously into each dog on Day 0 (before stanozolol treatment) and on Day 31 (after stanozolol treatment). Urine was collected by catheterization from each animal 3 times daily for 3 consecutive days. The 15N-urea enrichment in urine was determined by high-resolution mass spectrometry and the total amount of urea in the urine was determined. Both oral and injectable stanozolol resulted in significant (P < 0.05) increases in amino acid nitrogen retention compared to pretreatment values. Oral stanozolol increased nitrogen retention from 29.2 +/- 8.2% to 50.3 +/- 9.2%, while stanozolol injection increased nitrogen retention from 26.6 +/- 9.9% to 67.0 +/- 7.5%. The response to intramuscular administration was significantly greater than the response to the oral dosing regime. Stanozolol increases amino acid nitrogen retention in dogs, as has been previously observed in rats. This action of stanozolol may be beneficial in dogs under stress of surgical trauma and chronic disease.
 
That second study has 2 great applications.

1) grit your teeth and inject the shit, stop telling yourself its fine to drink it.
2) Secondly if scientific studies show protein consumption to be 2g/kg for "normal" human, when you juice you can times that by about 2.5, therefore 5g/kg when on juice through looking at the increaed nitrogen retention.
 
BIGMIke007 said:
That second study has 2 great applications.

1) grit your teeth and inject the shit, stop telling yourself its fine to drink it.
2) Secondly if scientific studies show protein consumption to be 2g/kg for "normal" human, when you juice you can times that by about 2.5, therefore 5g/kg when on juice through looking at the increaed nitrogen retention.

You took No. 2 Right out of my mouth. :p
 
ghost where do you get all this scientific shit bro? Way to complicated for a big jammed up meathead like me. J/k great post bro. Helps me especially cuz my next cycle is going to be heavy on winny and I've been pondering whether I should drink it or inj. Thanks for the help bro
 
I believe AR cites the 2nd study in his article about why it is better 2 inject winstrol, at least for men
 
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