tren and deca shut downs

[darwinmcduck]

I recently along with some friends took cycles of qv deca 300. There were two cycles that I took last year (ended last one november). Some of the guys did three cycles last year and one guy stayed on for almost 6 months. Most of the others have been off since july of 05. We have all taken cycles with the normas deca. Everyone came off easy with the normas without much instance of dramatic suppression of natural hormone production. The hormone suppresion from the qv 300 has been frightening. Low lh, test, and prolactin in all of the guys that have been off since july. Some have taken two pct's and have not recovered. All have had no libido and a case of the limpies. I have never seen shut downs like this and I have been at it almost ten years. This group of 8 guys have all stated the same thing. I am happy to report that after a very high dosage 2nd pct I am starting to experience some relief. I have not had to take much viagra but I am still without my normal libido. Deca and tren are great compounds but th suppression can be terrible. The other guys took tren too at times.

 

[JohnnyWest]

Ya, progestins are bad for that. I decided to never run deca or tren ever again because I don't think the possibility of a difficult recovery even with a good PCT is worth it. I have always recovered fine from both of them, but i'm young and don't want to push my luck anymore. Test, var, winstrol, and a good diet are all i need.
Not to mention the whole other problem of progesterone related gyno.

 

[Bourget]

Just curios, what was your pct? I'm coming off a cycle of Tren and do have a slight case of the "limpies" along with reduced libido myself.

 

[JuicedAthletics]

Darwin.. What were you doses and duration? Ive read that you LOVE deca.. Ive run NPP a few times and haven't had difficulty recovering. Mine are short 400mg for 6 weeks though...

 

[brewers]

I recently along with some friends took cycles of qv deca 300. There were two cycles that I took last year (ended last one november). Some of the guys did three cycles last year and one guy stayed on for almost 6 months. Most of the others have been off since july of 05. We have all taken cycles with the normas deca. Everyone came off easy with the normas without much instance of dramatic suppression of natural hormone production. The hormone suppresion from the qv 300 has been frightening. Low lh, test, and prolactin in all of the guys that have been off since july. Some have taken two pct's and have not recovered. All have had no libido and a case of the limpies. I have never seen shut downs like this and I have been at it almost ten years. This group of 8 guys have all stated the same thing. I am happy to report that after a very high dosage 2nd pct I am starting to experience some relief. I have not had to take much viagra but I am still without my normal libido. Deca and tren are great compounds but th suppression can be terrible. The other guys took tren too at times.

i seriously hope they were not running tren and deca together at any point...

 

[enacer420nj]

I ran a 7 week cycle of deca only @300mg....First It took a long time before i came...then i would feel like i had to cum and went limp and eventually couldnt get it up...I didnt know what PCT was back then so it took probably 4 months before my dick was back to normal...Now I was smart and ran test along with my deca cycle no problems and im in weeek #8 i have nolv/clomid and possibly HCG lined up for PCT...Hopefully my recovery goes smooth, If it doesnt I love deca, but ill have to drop it and stick to test/winstrol

 

[steelmass]

dostinex bro - its a lifesaver...

 

[darwinmcduck]

I usually ran deca for 10-12 weeks and it never gave me problems. I never get above 600mgs and most of the cycle only 400mgs. My pct has been lots of clomid for three weeks and then add 2500 ius of hcg every 72-96hrs for a couple of weeks and then 500-1000ius daily for a couple more. I run the clomd through the entire pct.

And nobody took tren and deca together.

 

[galaxy]

I would run the hcg with nolva for 3 weeks together and then continue for 3 weeks of clomid alone. I mean at least run the hcg first followed by clomid alone if anything.

 

[ilpadrone]

I'm at the end of week 3 of 150mg tren-e every 6th day and feel
the supression of my libido already since I started. Even nuts have shrunk some.
I have been on much heavier cycles with test/dbol and I'm used to have my
libido high or testo-high.. not low. This ain't funny. Maybe time to throw in some test.
Don't want to imagine how this would be when combined with deca..