Tren ace or var

[bull1055]

Which is better for strength and size, tren ace or var? im thinking of doing a cycle of either or. its my first cycle and would like to either or by themselves for about 6 weeks. any help would be appreciated

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

i would run more than that....but var at 100mg if possible...all the bros love it

 

[bull1055]

i would run more than that....but var at 100mg if possible...all the bros love it

run more. meaning more weeks or stack it with something else?

 

[bigmouth2006]

tren

 

[shivastool]

...its my first cycle...any help would be appreciated

First cycle? NO TREN!! Var maybe. IMO run 500mg Test EW for 10-12 weeks and you'll grow nicely. Hard to beleive people can reccomend Tren for a first cycle. F**kin irresponsible. We're here to help each other, no?

 

[bull1055]

First cycle? NO TREN!! Var maybe. IMO run 500mg Test EW for 10-12 weeks and you'll grow nicely. Hard to beleive people can reccomend Tren for a first cycle. F**kin irresponsible. We're here to help each other, no?

any specific reason why you should not take tren as your first cycle? thanks

 

[ViperHMS]

Personally I dont see why so many people freak out when they see someone saying they are going to take tren for their first cycle. I understand yeah it is a harsh substance, but people dont die on tren.

I would run tren over var, unless I was worried about side effects, then var is your best bet because it is almost side free. Great starter substance, but I too agree that test would be a great start also, it is simple and easy and everybody responds to test first cycle or last. You wouldnt need 500mg week either, you could easily see great gains with 300mg week for 10-12 weeks.

If you are really intent on taking tren, do a heck of a lot of research on it and what the sides are. You may respond to it well and have little side effects, like me, or just be a wreck on it. If you do decide to do tren, do tren ace and not tren enth because with the tren ace you can stop the use and you sides will disappear within a few days vs. a few weeks with tren enth.

 

[bull1055]

Personally I dont see why so many people freak out when they see someone saying they are going to take tren for their first cycle. I understand yeah it is a harsh substance, but people dont die on tren.

I would run tren over var, unless I was worried about side effects, then var is your best bet because it is almost side free. Great starter substance, but I too agree that test would be a great start also, it is simple and easy and everybody responds to test first cycle or last. You wouldnt need 500mg week either, you could easily see great gains with 300mg week for 10-12 weeks.

If you are really intent on taking tren, do a heck of a lot of research on it and what the sides are. You may respond to it well and have little side effects, like me, or just be a wreck on it. If you do decide to do tren, do tren ace and not tren enth because with the tren ace you can stop the use and you sides will disappear within a few days vs. a few weeks with tren enth.

thanks

 

[Goldprospector]

I would not run either one by themselves. I had extremely good strength gains with TestE 400mg EW and Var 80 mg ED....But then again I have had equally good sucess with TestE 400 EW and TrenE 500EW. So technically you are getting better results with tren at a lesser mg EW and a lesser price.
The bottom line is your strength will be dependant on you diet, workouts, and rest, first...Your choice of AAS is last

 

[ViperHMS]

any specific reason why you should not take tren as your first cycle? thanks

You wont get a really good response to that other than Tren is a harsh substance and that no newbie should take it.

Yes tren is alot harder on the system than say test or var. Tren will shut down your natural test production harder than say just test, but you can recover over time, it is just going to be a longer duration and I would suggest that blood testing to determine if you are back to normal would be a high priority if you decide to make this your first cycle.

Honestly I would not want to run tren as a first cycle and it is hard to change your mind after you hear all the great things tren does to your strength and body composition. Tren just leaves you more things to worry about in the end vs a test only cycle. Running tren alone is not something I would recommend, it is a lot better with test for one with how most respond to it being a libido killer. It is just better having that security blanket. I feel very fortunate to not have a bad time with tren. I've done tren alone and besides insomnia I was fairly side effect free.

I would just caution you to learn everything you can about tren first, but you'd get great results on a test only cycle for the first go around and the possiblilty of sides is just that much less.

 

[ALIN]

Which is better for strength and size, tren ace or var? im thinking of doing a cycle of either or. its my first cycle and would like to either or by themselves for about 6 weeks. any help would be appreciated

Both work very well for strength but I would not use the Tren without some testosterone.

 

[TracDT1]

Tren ace is the shit... been taking tren ace and prop for 5 weeks...ED injects and very minimal sides...all i got is a sore throat...no insomnia,no night sweats(and I usually sweat a ton),minimal acne,great sex drive,no hair loss,reg BP and HR...tren ace is the shit esp. with prop...just remember ED for minmal sides...but EOD is def sufficient as well...good luck with ur cycle bro

overall maybe not use tren for a first cycle , but def look into it in the future and make sure ur ready for the ED or EOD injects

 

[njmuscleguy]

Just my 2 cents, but I'd go with a test only for a first cycle.... you'll get great gains and strength and if your diet is right (which it should regardless) and you take the right anciliaries, you won't necessarily blow up like a balloon then lose it all later... tren is a great AAS... arguably the most potent and possibly the most sides.... tren was my 3rd cycle and I'm glad I did it that way.... gave me enough time to read alot about it and about other people's experiences and opinions.... and when you're ready, run tren ace with test... you'll thank us later.... so far now, go for the test... we won't steer you wrong

 

[jagerbombme]

was recommended against tren for first cycle, i was gonna do tren e for first and the guys here took care of me and showed me where i was wrong. glad i didn't. might look into it in the future for vascularity and w/e else it offers. i've heard though that you don't keep a high percentage of the tren gains vs other aas. couple people have stated that here.

my first cycle im currently on looks like this

test e 250mg/week 1-10
var 60mg ed week 1-5
aifm for gyno or bloat
hcg for the testes


pct
hcg
aifm
trib

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

I meant run var high...like run it at 100mg for 8 weeks if you can afford it...but these guys have great things to say about tren too...which I have heard is awesome

 

[bull1055]

would any one here recommend taking tren ace and superdrol together?

 

[kbrkbr]

Which is better for strength and size, tren ace or var? im thinking of doing a cycle of either or. its my first cycle and would like to either or by themselves for about 6 weeks. any help would be appreciated

Bro, no flame, but the very fact that you are comparing var and fina tells me you have a lot more research to do before you start messing with gear.

Test and var would be a nice cycle for a newb. Or in lieu of var, you might throw in a little deca or equ.