Transdermal 4-AD; Labido same as on test!

[Studly Hungwell]

Taking Avant labs 4-Aderm 10 squirts a day, 5 in morning, 5 in afternoon for two weeks, total of 500mgs a day.

I know how I feel on test. Frequent erections and more thoughts on sex. This 4-AD has been doing the same thing. This product should make infamercials for men who want the south to rise again!

Downside is that I have experienced no strength gains in the gym, but no strength loss either. Subsequently gained a few pounds in the past few weeks. Chest looks fuller.

 

[jacshelb]

Yes, I hear ya. I'm doing 700mg/day with DMSO. Good libido, full muscles, not any noticeable strenght gains. Oh well, two out of three aint bad.

Let us know what your results are muscle wise.

So far (2 weeks in) I'm down in fat (? eating less I guess) and still look better than when I started but weigh the same. Good stuff for cheap so far.

Jacob

 

[Studly Hungwell]

I'm at the conclusion that 4-AD does not offer strength gains.

I'm going to start anavar so I can get my lifts up real good before the end of the summer. I'll continue 4-AD, and even if there is a remote possibility that 4-AD does offer strength gains; it will surely be obscured from my anavar dosage.

 

[Dante B.]

Odd, this is. Most users of 4ADerm, even as a stand alone, notice some degree of strenth increase, and this goes for 4-Diol in general (transdermal, or high-dose oral). Where you in a state of caloric deficit? Or where you specifically taking in an excess of calories (since the few pounds could have been water retention, and if you were in deficit, it may have spared muscle, and strength)?

 

[Studly Hungwell]

I never let myself go hungry, get enough protein and don't do cardio to excess.

My diet and routine is the same as on AD-1, but my strength and weight was marketly increasing after a few weeks. Guess I'm spoiled.

WE need something that works as well as 1-AD without the labido loss. I've read many subjects report that the 1-AD overrides the labido increase of 4-AD; making the stack ineffective for those purposes.

Is boldione the answer?

 

[Par Deus]

WE need something that works as well as 1-AD without the labido loss. I've read many subjects report that the 1-AD overrides the labido increase of 4-AD; making the stack ineffective for those purposes.

It varies -- most who use ONE+ get an increase in libido, aggression, etc., (for me, it was much stringer than 4-ADerm, in this regard) but there are certainly a good number of people that do not. You would pretty much just have to try it.

 

[jacshelb]

I think I'm noticing some strength increases now. (haven't tested, but feel stronger). Also, now holding a little water weight. My thighs are up 1/2 inch and arms up 1/4inch or so and look solid.

The main thing I'm getting out of this is that it seems to keep me in a more consistent anabolic state (judging by my appearance). Usually during a two week period I'll fluctuate: look flat and drained some days, fuller others. With 4-AD I look full or fuller, never as flat no matter how I'm eating.

Does anyone think it would make a good libido booster while on moderate dose fina?

Thanks,

Jacob

 

[Studly Hungwell]

If you inject the fina at the no less than reccomended (75mgs eod) I would put money on that your labido will go down the shitter even if your took a bath tub full of 4-Aderm.

Don't do any less than 200mgs of test a week on fina (injectable type). Just my opinion though.