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Thoughts on a possible POLE SHIFT

I've long been interested in the theories of Sitchen, Velikovsky and the 12th planet. I agree there is strong archeological evidence there may be a 12th planet. I agree if there is a 12th planet, it's passing could cause pole shifts, but I really don't see how it could cause the earth to stop rotating (angular momentum). I believe the three days of darkness would be an eclipse effect from blocking out the sun as it passed between earth and the sun.

The biggest problem I see with these sites in predicting a 12th planet passing this year, is that they try to link them with the prophecies of Jesus, which, yes, do talk about three days of darkness AFTER THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, which requires the AntiChrist to stand in the rebuilt Jewish temple in Jerusalem. That temple hasn't been rebuilt, and won't be any time soon.
All of the Biblical prophecies that refer to a "12th planet like" event occur AFTER the Antichrist is on the scene. Not this year.

024:006 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars - already happening
024:007 For nation shall rise against nation - already happening
024:009 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted - begining to happen
024:011 And many false prophets shall rise... - already happening
024:012 And because iniquity shall abound... - already happening
024:015 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, ...stand in the holy place...
.......HAS NOT HAPPENED YET............holy place not rebuilt yet
024:021 For then shall be great tribulation...
024:029 Immediately after the tribulation ...the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven,...
NOT THIS YEAR
 
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I've long been interested in the theories of Sitchen, Velikovsky and the 12th planet. I agree there is strong archeological evidence there may be a 12th planet. I agree if there is a 12th planet, it's passing could cause pole shifts, but I really don't see how it could cause the earth to stop rotating (angular momentum). I believe the three days of darkness would be an eclipse effect from blocking out the sun as it passed between earth and the sun.

The biggest problem I see with these sites in predicting a 12th planet passing this year, is that they try to link them with the prophecies of Jesus, which, yes, do talk about three days of darkness AFTER THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, which requires the AntiChrist to stand in the rebuilt Jewish temple in Jerusalem. That temple hasn't been rebuilt, and won't be any time soon.
All of the Biblical prophecies that refer to a "12th planet like" event occur AFTER the Antichrist is on the scene. Not this year.

024:006 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars - already happening
024:007 For nation shall rise against nation - already happening
024:009 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted - begining to happen
024:011 And many false prophets shall rise... - already happening
024:012 And because iniquity shall abound... - already happening
024:015 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, ...stand in the holy place...
HAS NOT HAPPENED YET............holy place not rebuilt yet
024:021 For then shall be great tribulation...
024:029 Immediately after the tribulation ...the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven,...
NOT THIS YEAR

Good points.
 
The only pole you should be concerned about is the shift change down at Big Gay Wodin's Empornium
 
LMAO!!!

Wouldn't have these shift problems if he wasn't spending all his time at your Man Love Face Shot Shack.
 
Fossil records show that past pole shift changes correlate to massive extinction events.
All that ice and water sloshes around, 500 foot tidal waves, earthquakes, massive volcanoes create dust, dust causes year long winter, everything dies.
 
Talked quite a bit about this last semester in a geography class.

I doubt it will be the end of human life, although a lot of people might die. Geological evidence in the bands on the sea floor indicate that it doesn't take long to happen, less than 100 years. Also, it only takes about 50-75 years for a full blown ice age to start (to the point where there would be glacial sheets in the continental US). I think glaciers sliding around New England and all of Europe, raizing everything in thier path would be much more destructive than just a pole switch.

I didn't read anything in those articles, but is there anything in there about how the magnetic North Pole has moved about 1100 kilometers in the last century, and has been speeding up since the 1970s. Within 50 years, at the same rate and direction, it should be in Siberia. Of course it could speed up or slow back down.
http://www.geolab.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/long_mvt_nmp_e.shtml
 
I'm following the prophecy of Professor Dr. Hank Wesslemen, who's book, "Spirit Walker," details is trance state, shamanic journeys into the future. In this future, around 500 years from Earth's present year, he is observing as a spirit the life of a Hawian Shaman. In this future, global temperatures have risen and much of the world's landmass has been overtaken by water from glacial melt. Including California.

Okay, I took a class from this guy years ago and learned some interesting things about global religion.

The shaman's religion is the oldest and most consistant in its theology and phenomena the world over. Native peoples in South America have the same visions and countless other religious similiarities with the native peoples of Siberia, for example. It is the religion of hunter/gatherers around the globe, and it involves inducing a trance state using a percussion instrument played at a specific pace. Naturally occuring alkaloids are sometimes used to enhance the shaman's abilities or visions while in trance.

In this trance state, the shaman jouneys into different levels of reality, usually represented as a tree with three seperate parts; roots, trunk, and branches/leaves. Our reality is the middle world, or "trunk" of the world tree.

A shaman usually begins his spirit jouney into the lower world, where he attempts to make contact with his gaurdian spirit or spirit animal. This will often occur at some point in the shaman's life while observing another shaman at work, while taking native drugs, or when near death or ill. These two supernatural forces are needed to protect the shaman from spiritual attack, and may teach the shaman ways to increase his spiritual power. Spiritual attack is a very real and often used strategy in more primitive cultures, and usually comes from the shamans of rival tribes or from enemies within one's own tribe, who may have some shamanic ability or be able to pay another shaman to lay a curse. The shaman can communicate with the spirit animals of other people through his or her own spirit animal. Shamans can utilize the spirits of the lower realm to cause harm to others by way of spiritual attack, but they can also heal by pleading with the powerful spirits of the upper realm to perform a miracle.

Again, the above description is universal, globally, and has been for tens of thousands of years. Rock art in Australia 50,000 years old depicting strange beings that are part man and part animal, the world tree, and shamanic religious symbols is almost identical to the rock art still being created by native peoples today.

I've journeyed into the lower realm on several occasions by utilizing the simple techniques one learns to enter a trance state. Its really quite simple with a drum beat. You'd be suprised, and you don't need to be wasted to get there. The experience is something like a very lucid dream where you have almost total control of reality. Almost anything is possible; flying, breathing fire, or morphing into animals. There are other things or visions that are universal and have not changed from person to person and for thousands of years.

You may think this is all bullshit. It sounds a bit like an alien conspiracy theory. But, it a universally human phenomena. If you are interested, look for a book called "The Shamanic Journey." It comes with a drumming CD and instructions on how to induce trance. The first time you try you will probably succeed as it is very easy. Something in the structure of our neurons gets tweaked when the drum beats, and the trance state rushes in all of a sudden and you are tingling from head to toe. It actually was much harder the second time I tried and even harder the third. A "gifted" shaman can pass into a trance state with ease and is very lucid while in trance, every time he tries.
 
ARE YOU SERIOUS? Then tell me, when do you think the world will end, and how? What about the "disposition" of human souls/spirits?
 
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