thinking about surgery....

[flyin j]

Ive read several threads about people who have had gyno since puberty and i think im in the same boat im about a month or 2 away from starting my 2nd cycle of 8 weeks EQ then last five weeks 50 mg (inj.) winny eod and also last five weeks 200 to 300 mgs of deca just for joint pain with clomid and nolva for 5 weeks pct. and also im ordering 2 bottles of Y ES from the AF store to use on the chest area during and after my cycle and pct. I guess my question is should i go ahead with this cycle to see if it would help get rid of most of it or should i ditch the idea and save up for surgery because there is a plastic surgeon in my area, it is definatly noticable when shirtless but in certain shirts its not but either way it pisses me off to no end because i have great size and hardness everywhere except my chest, and a few questions to those who have had surgery.

How much was it say 3000-5000 dollars. How long was it before you really lifted again. Did it come right back months later or just stay gone. Has anyone done a cycle of any kind after surgery i mean not right after but say 6 to 8 months later and how were the results, and finally if i did it i would take 2 weeks away from the gym but could i still do legs and back and shoulders and arms, things that dont involve the chest if i didnt take 2 weeks off. Any input would be seriously and greatly appreciated.

 

[Guiseppe]

thats a good question because I am doing close to the same cycle,
the deca,EQ and Winny. So far I have steady qualitry gains,nothing major yet..
But this is week 3. But I would say do the gyno surgery now asap!

 

[roidpuple]

Well man i would say wait at least 2 weeks... that is not a bad layoff.. sometimes is good... the problem will not be you chest hurting or anything it will be the tightness it will be really tight so you will not want to stretch that area so it will heal good..
........ Why not do a big cycle full of estrogen .... that way you don’t have to worry about it.. Then go get it cut out....... and ya if you have the knots and you have had them for a very long time they will not go away without surgery.... price about 2000-3000 dollars
..but ya you now you are going to go get it cut out so just do a big cycle and you wont even have to worry about it.. that would be awesome… ha ha

 

[FreakMonster]

If you have insurance is can be as low as $300

 

[Mr.X]

I had gyno surgery, it never came back - but with mine they took out the gland too.

Mr.X

 

[courtneybcca]

okay I have seen you guys post about this before what is gyno surgery

 

[Mr.X]

okay I have seen you guys post about this before what is gyno surgery

basically the fiberous/fatty (hard) lump that develops under you nipple - that area - needs to be removed; it's due to increase/fluctuations in estrogen/progesterone levels...I.E. the lump hurts and can make you looks like you have women's breasts.

Mr.X

 

[Dial_tone]

XMan, what do you suggest people tell the doctor re: steroids....admit nothing? Do you really ham up the part about how much it hurts?

 

[FreakMonster]

XMan, what do you suggest people tell the doctor re: steroids....admit nothing? Do you really ham up the part about how much it hurts?

Admit nothing. All you get is a lecture.

 

[Dial_tone]

Admit nothing. All you get is a lecture.

That's easy for you lil guys to get away with. One look at me and they can pretty much figure it out on their own.

 

[flyin j]

I had gyno surgery, it never came back - but with mine they took out the gland too.

Mr.X

Ok i thought that taking out the gland is what the surgery mainly did, im a little confused with that, so is having them take out the gland someting i have to request maybe, and how soon were you lifting after the surgery, and how long was it before you took any thing like sust or deca. Im probably going to contact the place in town middle of next week when i get time but i would like to here more about your overall exp. with it. Basically if everything goes right with the operation how long am i going to be out of the game because if i have it it will be sometime in july when ive got 3000 gathered up because minus the chest fat i look better than ever I have people telling me to drop from 255 to 240 and compete somewhere but not with this DAMN NUISANCE on me. Thanks for your reply bro, please let me know more.

 

[Strangle Hold]

I've just recently gotten the lump!
Taking Adex and Nolva now to combat it.
Will it go away or is that it - Gyno boy needs surgery?!?!?!?
I grapple and it sucks!
It's sore - but seems to be getting a little better?!?!
Please help!

 

[sigmund]

I had gyno surgery, it never came back - but with mine they took out the gland too.

Mr.X

I asked my PS about having the whole gland removed and he said that you need to leave a tiny amount behind else the nipple can die! (?) - Apparently the gland supplies oxygen through to the nipple tissue... if this isn't the case I would have preferred him to cut it all out so i don't have to worry about gyno reforming!

flyin j - As to how long it took before i got back into full training - approx 5 weeks, was training legs after 2 weeks.

 

[flyin j]

I asked my PS about having the whole gland removed and he said that you need to leave a tiny amount behind else the nipple can die! (?) - Apparently the gland supplies oxygen through to the nipple tissue... if this isn't the case I would have preferred him to cut it all out so i don't have to worry about gyno reforming!

flyin j - As to how long it took before i got back into full training - approx 5 weeks, was training legs after 2 weeks.

Thanks for the info im gonna look into it very soon, approx. how much did it cost, and i think i am going to go ahead with my cycle plans i mentioned in the first post because on days when i do chest or shoulders i get a pump and you cant tell its there at all so im going to try to get a little more lean and run nolva for an extra 2 weeks after pct to see if that will do anything before i really make a final desicion. Thanks again for the input.

 

[natty]

I've had natural gyno since puberty(26 now) and I've never used gear.Mine is not real noticeable but it drives me fucking nuts. I've got a quote from a plastic surgeon here in Tampa for $1700, I'm going to have it removed this year.

 

[flyin j]

I've had natural gyno since puberty(26 now) and I've never used gear.Mine is not real noticeable but it drives me fucking nuts. I've got a quote from a plastic surgeon here in Tampa for $1700, I'm going to have it removed this year.

yeah i know what you mean mines not real noticable and almost non existant on chest day but it still keeps me from having the perfect look in my opinion i will probably have it done too, but keep me posted on how it goes if you have it done by august or september because thats when i might finally have it done. Thanks for the input and 1700 sounds pretty good.

 

[drbermant]

I asked my PS about having the whole gland removed and he said that you need to leave a tiny amount behind else the nipple can die! (?) - Apparently the gland supplies oxygen through to the nipple tissue... if this isn't the case I would have preferred him to cut it all out so i don't have to worry about gyno reforming!

flyin j - As to how long it took before i got back into full training - approx 5 weeks, was training legs after 2 weeks.

Each surgeon's technique varies. With my Dynamic Technique, I try to target the gland first. I have removed massive glands from under the nipple / areola and preserved the blood supply.

Warning Graphic Pictures
You can see many examples of such gland removal on my site, here is one graphic example here that involved gland and fat. For the many body builders I do, the gland removed is typically much smaller.

Some surgeons do not target gland and I have removed massive residual glands after other doctors' liposuction alone operations. The problem is that shreads of gland can remain behind with any technique. I have seen very few recurrences with my techniques. However, each patient is cautioned that gynecomastia surgery does not prevent gland regrowth.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
Learn More About Gynecomastia and Chest Sculpture

 

[FreakMonster]

That's easy for you lil guys to get away with. One look at me and they can pretty much figure it out on their own.

Are you trying to say I'm little?

Bitch!! Come over my house, I'll show you!! LOL