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http://www.infidelguy.com/articles/atheist-articles-0025.htm
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Afghanistan
By Mir Tamim Ansary

I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age." Ronn Owens [2], on
KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do
with this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What else can we do?" Minutes
later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we "have the belly to do what must be done."

And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and even
though I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who
will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing.

I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. There is no doubt in my mind that these
people were responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree that something must be done about those
monsters.

But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the government of Afghanistan. The
Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political
criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden, think Hitler. And
when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think "the Jews in the concentration camps." It's not only that the
Afghan people had nothing to do with this atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They
would exult if someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of international
thugs holed up in their country. Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The
answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A few
years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled orphans in Afghanistan , a country
with no economy, no food. There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these widows
alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These
are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban.

We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age. Trouble is, that's been done.
The Soviets took care of it already. Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses?
Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their hospitals? Done. Destroy their
infrastructure? Cut them off from medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that.

New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at least get the Taliban? Not likely. In
today's Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and
hide. Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't move too fast, they don't even
have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the
criminals who did this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with the Taliban--by
raping once again the people they've been raping all this time.

So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with true fear and trembling. The only
way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what
needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as needed. Having the belly to
overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's
actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting their way
through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any troops to
Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan
would have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting with
a world war between Islam and the West.

And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants. That's why he did this. Read his
speeches and statements. It's all right there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem
ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If
the west wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose, that's even better
from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably wrong, in the end the west would win, whatever that would
mean, but the war would last for years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the belly for
that? Bin Laden does. Anyone else?

Mir Tamim Ansary
 
ORGANON CANON said:
This is very true and I side with it 100%. Unfortunitly most don't want to believe this therefore they won't.

yep, very true.

The idiots on this board who post things like 'nuke the whole of Afghanistan and kill everyone' should read that article.
 
The idiots on this board who post things like 'nuke the whole of Afghanistan and kill everyone' should read that article.

Naw we must be PC now, just carpet bomb!:smash:
 
if we went to afghanistan now and polled the afghanis that dislike that taliban and ask them:

were you happy about the destruction of the word trade center?

does it make you happy when americans die?

do you want all americans and israelis to die and islam to rule the world?

how do you think they will respond?
 
Superb article, I figured as much.

Shit, what is really a good solution to this? There is no doubt that the Taliban and Bin Laden/Al-Qaeda must go...
 
islamic believe by funding social programns in the country such as eductaion, health etc. the populace will become educated enough to choose their own government and hand over binladen.

thats basically bullshit

any money you gove them will be appropriated by te taliban in some way, theyve made no effort to improve the country and they teach their ways of life which is basicaly treat women like breeding chambers and kill all non-muslims

how do you remove a man like binladen then. unfortunately, i only see military action as a way. if the afghani's had something to lose i might sympathise but they've had so much take away from them. But if we are to at all justify this ground war we need to set up a democratically elected government or at least set up a fair government and hold democratic elections down the road, UN supervised.


thing is i fund out firly recently muslims have 3 basic references to 'islam'....the qu'ran, some book with people interpretations of the quoran and the actions of mohammed. now if they are actually willing to take someones intpretations of that book as gospel, then you have a serious problem with educating them. a lot of them belive Islam is the only way to go. pakistani's, and a fair majority of them think that after all this shit dies down, the taliban should be left in power, as they have 'islamic laws' which the 'west jusdges by western infidel eyes'. fuck them. we need to lay the shit out of fuckers that think like that over here and sort out that mess of a country which we helped to create.


EVEN worse, im reading reports that the US is gonna pay opf pakistan by helping them n their debate about kashmir. india have committed war crimes admittedly by doing a no-prisoner.torture prisoner routine but at least they have a stable civillised government. the pakistani government wanted to execute a 12 yr old child ffor being christian. democracy is a joke in that shithole.

we got some serious descison making to do here, i hope our leaders are up to it
 
But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the government of Afghanistan

Very next line........
The Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997

Well if they took over wouldn't that make them the government? Even though they aren't recoginized by most countries (maybe even all now) they still have all the power, this makes them the acting government.

New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at least get the Taliban? Not likely
.

I think that it is important that we weaken the Taliban defenses as much as possible before sending in American soilders. This is a war, and sometimes we need to do things that we would rather not do.
I would also like to add that I believe that most people on this board understand the difference between the afghan people and the taliban. For the most part when people say "Nuke Afghan", they are just messing around because they know they can get some people all riled up.

B.T.W.---NUKE AFGHANISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
 
Engine9 said:


Well if they took over wouldn't that make them the government? Even though they aren't recoginized by most countries (maybe even all now) they still have all the power, this makes them the acting government.

I would also like to add that I believe that most people on this board understand the difference between the afghan people and the taliban. For the most part when people say "Nuke Afghan", they are just messing around because they know they can get some people all riled up.

B.T.W.---NUKE AFGHANISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

they dont have complete control, the northern alliance previous to the warcontrolled 1/10 of the country. their were 2 flags for one country. who conrolled america when the north fought the south?

as for the second part....you'd be suprised ya know.:(
 
Yeah, but is 1/10 enough to have any control? the NA was been backed into a corner. The taliban pretty much says whats what from what I understand. Who makes the laws? the Taliban or the N.A.? from what I understand is is the Taliban-although I may be wrong.
 
imjust saying the didnt govern the whole country thats all....internationally the northern alliance was recognised as the government. just pointing that out :)
 
we all are

most of us dont have a clue. eve the muslims (or if they do they choose not to recognise it)
 
danielson said:
we all are

most of us dont have a clue. eve the muslims (or if they do they choose not to recognise it)

i am not ignorant about whats going on there. i have 100% full understanding of all these events and i could take the place of any leader if necessary and make the world a better place.
 
Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering

I said it once, I'll say it again. This is a sorry ass excuse. During the American revolution, did the revolutionary army have K-rations, warm beds, and modern weapons? If you believe in freedom and independence then FIGHT FOR IT. We didn't have the help of a superpower 200+ years ago. Look at IRAQ. We kicked the living shit out of Hussein and his army as well as cut his economic legs out from under him. Did the people take the opportunity to oust him? NO NO NO NO.

All of this talk about hatred of the Taliban, the Ayatollah, Khadafi, Bin Laden, Hussein, etc... yet they still live and continue to rule. Talk is cheap, and when it comes from the Middle East, two-faced and false and nothing more than propaganda. They are cowards who prefer AND HAVE CHOSEN to live under oppression and with terrorist régimes rather than die fighting against them. Suicide bombers have at least shown their willingless to die for a worthless cause; clearly the genes for such action exists in the Mid East.

This is war and because they (the people) have not made it their problem now we have and we will make the tough decisions for them- to quote Delaware(?) "Live Free or Die!"
 
thebabydoc said:

I said it once, I'll say it again. This is a sorry ass excuse. During the American revolution, did the revolutionary army have K-rations, warm beds, and modern weapons? If you believe in freedom and independence then FIGHT FOR IT. We didn't have the help of a superpower 200+ years ago. Look at IRAQ. We kicked the living shit out of Hussein and his army as well as cut his economic legs out from under him. Did the people take the opportunity to oust him? NO NO NO NO.

All of this talk about hatred of the Taliban, the Ayatollah, Khadafi, Bin Laden, Hussein, etc... yet they still live and continue to rule. Talk is cheap, and when it comes from the Middle East, two-faced and false and nothing more than propaganda. They are cowards who prefer AND HAVE CHOSEN to live under oppression and with terrorist régimes rather than die fighting against them. Suicide bombers have at least shown their willingless to die for a worthless cause; clearly the genes for such action exists in the Mid East.
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I have to disagree with you bro. the english did not use such cruel tactics as saddam or the taliban (mass executions and nerve gassing of their own citizens) on their citizens. did the english pull that kind of sick shit? no. also the english were thousands of miles away in a time where travel and information moved slowly. to compare the revolutionary war (which really started over taxation and nothing else) and the situation in the middle east is not applicable. Please tell me why you would think otherwise.

also keep in mind that all the middle eastern governments you mentioned impose a totalitarian authorian regime where any kind of freedoms you and I hold dear are not allowed. any opponents are removed by any means necessary (murder). this was not the case in the revolutionary times. am I correct?
 
No you are not correct. Bottom line is that the few are ruling the many.

My analogy is applicable, because under the threat of death from a FAR SUPERIOR force, the revolutionary Americans (our forefathers) stood up and fought for their freedom. And, (as you noted), for far less-- taxation, not the right to practice religion or basic freedoms. Now if they don't have a reason to revolt, tell me someone who does. What you are calling "Cruel tactics" is just another way of whining that "they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering" and can't stick up for themselves and I ain't buying, no matter how you might try to sugar coat it. I stand by my statement and analogy. Freedom ain't cheap, but it's worth it.

You are correct that the Mid-East is not America in the 1700's; it's more like the 1200's, and this is even more reason that the people should be able to revolt more easily than early Americans did. Truth be told, I think it's time we started getting MEDIEVAL on all their asses!
 
What's to say when the US lands 100,000 soldiers that the Taliban would drop a nuke or something on them??? These guys don't seem to mind killing their own...why not kill 100,000 americans at the same time and say the death of their own was Ala's will and they sacrificed themselves for the good of Islam.
 
thebabydoc said:
No you are not correct. Bottom line is that the few are ruling the many.

My analogy is applicable, because under the threat of death from a FAR SUPERIOR force, the revolutionary Americans (our forefathers) stood up and fought for their freedom. And, (as you noted), for far less-- taxation, not the right to practice religion or basic freedoms. Now if they don't have a reason to revolt, tell me someone who does. What you are calling "Cruel tactics" is just another way of whining that "they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering" and can't stick up for themselves and I ain't buying, no matter how you might try to sugar coat it. I stand by my statement and analogy. Freedom ain't cheap, but it's worth it.

You are correct that the Mid-East is not America in the 1700's; it's more like the 1200's, and this is even more reason that the people should be able to revolt more easily than early Americans did. Truth be told, I think it's time we started getting MEDIEVAL on all their asses!

i really think you are taking nature boys post in the wrong way. comparing revolutionary america to todays wars is like comparing the british attempt to conquer afghanistan to americas attempt to destroy the taliban.

musulphreak, yes they may do that, but that would also cause the entire destruction of the middle east. our nuclear tech far out-weights theirs. you prestented a idea that i think about everyday, i really pray this isnt a trap to kill u.s. soldiers.
 
MuSuLPhReAk said:
What's to say when the US lands 100,000 soldiers that the Taliban would drop a nuke or something on them??? These guys don't seem to mind killing their own...why not kill 100,000 americans at the same time and say the death of their own was Ala's will and they sacrificed themselves for the good of Islam.

very good question. because while i don't think all muslims are suicidal like that all it takes is a couple of idiots like that to set off a nuke.

but i don't think we'll ever have 100,000 troops there.
 
uh it's 4:45 over here. I think I maybe did too many illegal substances that's why i'm still awake and on every thread on this board. tomorrow is going to be rough.

dude it's 10:30?!?!?! Where are you at, hawaii?
 
in case you didnt realise there have been anti-taliban forces, the northern alliance. a 10 yr old child walked the length of afghanistan just to join and fight

i love how in the comfort of a home with central heating, sitting at a computer screen sipping on a mitai or something you can criticise the afghani's for not fighting. do some research...they reppelled sooo many armies before, except now they have no food, and its been that way for a while.

the talban have also had full support from pakistan financially and militarily. thier populace have a few guns, the taliban have lots and routinely execute people in public. its easy to say 'lets fight' but when your rebel armies are starving and no-one else in the world cares because its 'not their problem' you see whow easy it is to fight.

back in imerial times they didnt have machine guns, RPG's, tanks, aircraft....you ever tried to take on a mig-27 one on one? with a slingshot, or an antiquated musket?
 
The Nature Boy said:
uh it's 4:45 over here. I think I maybe did too many illegal substances that's why i'm still awake and on every thread on this board. tomorrow is going to be rough.

dude it's 10:30?!?!?! Where are you at, hawaii?

yeah, im in hawaii.
 
thebabydoc said:


This is war and because they (the people) have not made it their problem now we have and we will make the tough decisions for them- to quote Delaware(?) "Live Free or Die!" [/B]

We are in this battle for the economic and political implications.

We are NOT in this war for humanitarian or ideological reasons.

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa48119.000/hfa48119_0.HTM

A UnoCal executive spoke to congress back in 1998 stating that turmoil in Afghanistan will disrupt oil markets...there is not enough resources for Central Asia....the demand will increase price...etc.
 
We are in this war to

1. Avenge the events of 9/11/01 and bring the perpetrators to justice,
2. to assure that they never again occur, and
3. to establish a stable democratic government other than Israel and Egypt in the region.

if we free the people of Afghanistan at the same time, well so be it.

To call this war "economic" is a joke. I doubt even you believe this.
 
thebabydoc said:
We are in this war to

1. Avenge the events of 9/11/01 and bring the perpetrators to justice,
2. to assure that they never again occur, and
3. to establish a stable democratic government other than Israel and Egypt in the region.

if we free the people of Afghanistan at the same time, well so be it.

To call this war "economic" is a joke. I doubt even you believe this.

I'll go along with no.1.....but even if we complete that one, it doesn't guarantee it won't happen again. Do you think that once we find these perps, things will go back to the way they were?
No, they won't. It will take the international coalition's continous efforts to keep terrorism muted. Which goes back to the past, when we had an opportunity to make a statement about terrorism, we didn't. Now, terrorists are dug in all over the world, some of which are still in the US.
And also, it isn't our job to establish a democratic government. It is the UN's role. I don't want us to give billions in aid like we do to both Egypt, and Israel, and see that their people are still poor. Those people in that region don't want our influence, we need to butt out, take a hint. If Saudi Arabia falls to a coup, watch us attempt to rectify that situation also. Obviously Saudi believes our foreign policy sucks.....the whole country remembers the statement by the prince. And they're supposed to be our friends? At least that is what our government wants us to believe. They don't give a shit about us either.....we have a base there, and we can't use it? We need to get the fuck out of there after we capture these terrorists.
 
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The people of the country eventually have to rise uop against the ways of the Taliban. If they continually allow this to happen then they share in some of the guilt.


America should, no MUST, act in its own interests, and not be the world's "moral cop".
 
nordstrom said:



We've been acting in our best interest at the expense of morality for decades.

I read a lot of left wing stuff. Interesting....thanks for the link , I liked it.


America corporations have acted in their best interest for a long time, and the US government just looks the other way. The American people don't see that stuff.

The government also tries to put forth a certain image to its own people - that we are only attacking military targets, etc. Remember how infatuated CNN made people with the "Highway of Death"?

Now many are looking back and saying "we should have got Saddam in 1990". How quickly some forget.

What I am saying is the the US should focus on truly combatting terrorism, even if that means rolling the tanks into Baghdad, Beirut, Damacus, Teheran, etc.

To truly eliminate terrorism, (as Bush and Powell have stated is their goal), a lot of blood will have to spill. This "CNN war" that we are fighting will likely not do the job.
 
The Nature Boy said:


I have to disagree with you bro. the english did not use such cruel tactics as saddam or the taliban (mass executions and nerve gassing of their own citizens) on their citizens. did the english pull that kind of sick shit? no. also the english were thousands of miles away in a time where travel and information moved slowly. to compare the revolutionary war (which really started over taxation and nothing else) and the situation in the middle east is not applicable. Please tell me why you would think otherwise.

also keep in mind that all the middle eastern governments you mentioned impose a totalitarian authorian regime where any kind of freedoms you and I hold dear are not allowed. any opponents are removed by any means necessary (murder). this was not the case in the revolutionary times. am I correct?

First of all, you are an idiot. With that said, I will shred you and the thread starter to pieces. Ignorance is bliss! babyDoc is soooooooooooo correct about those Mid-East bastards not fighting and at least trying to overthrow their fucked up leaders. They are cowards...except the NA. At least those MEN have some balls. They are two faced and untrustworthy!! FREEDOM is NOT CHEAP! No one is gonna come give it to you. Well, we are trying to give it to many countries now. But, FUCK. our men were god damned slaughtered for years by the British. Those fuckin bloody pussies, loved their King and Queen hierarchy bullshit so much they had to try and rule everything. The USA is not trying to rule everything and everyone. We just want you to act civilized so we can conduct business with your people!!!!!!!! Our revolution was much more than taxation. Read about it MORON! I hate ignorant people who try and talk about politics, history, anything they "THINK" they know. What babydoc wwas trying to say was that we faught with nothing for the basic right to have true freedom. We faught with fucking sticks against canons!!!!! and still won, not easy, but won! Why can't those fucking pussies rise up and say no MORE, why? because deep down they agree. They have been brain washed for years to HATE the USA. EVERY ONE HATES THE USA!!!!! You know why????????/ Because we are the BEST, BIggest, MOST Wealthy god damn country in the world and everyone is envious. EVERYONE!
 
nitlyan said:


First of all, you are an idiot. With that said, I will shred you and the thread starter to pieces. Ignorance is bliss! babyDoc is soooooooooooo correct about those Mid-East bastards not fighting and at least trying to overthrow their fucked up leaders. They are cowards...except the NA. At least those MEN have some balls. They are two faced and untrustworthy!! FREEDOM is NOT CHEAP! No one is gonna come give it to you. Well, we are trying to give it to many countries now. But, FUCK. our men were god damned slaughtered for years by the British. Those fuckin bloody pussies, loved their King and Queen hierarchy bullshit so much they had to try and rule everything. The USA is not trying to rule everything and everyone. We just want you to act civilized so we can conduct business with your people!!!!!!!! Our revolution was much more than taxation. Read about it MORON! I hate ignorant people who try and talk about politics, history, anything they "THINK" they know. What babydoc wwas trying to say was that we faught with nothing for the basic right to have true freedom. We faught with fucking sticks against canons!!!!! and still won, not easy, but won! Why can't those fucking pussies rise up and say no MORE, why? because deep down they agree. They have been brain washed for years to HATE the USA. EVERY ONE HATES THE USA!!!!! You know why????????/ Because we are the BEST, BIggest, MOST Wealthy god damn country in the world and everyone is envious. EVERYONE!

You're how old? Tell me how much money we handout in aid to countries in the M EASt?
 
MattTheSkywalker said:



Now many are looking back and saying "we should have got Saddam in 1990". How quickly some forget.

What I am saying is the the US should focus on truly combatting terrorism, even if that means rolling the tanks into Baghdad, Beirut, Damacus, Teheran, etc.

To truly eliminate terrorism, (as Bush and Powell have stated is their goal), a lot of blood will have to spill. This "CNN war" that we are fighting will likely not do the job.


thats true. i agreed with that post you made a while back. i say the same thing, that after Bin Ladin is killed, there will be another terrorist to take his place. people seem to think terrorism started with Bin Ladin, and it didn't. it just never happened here before. khomeni, khadaffi, arafat and probably a host of lesser known terrorists have been active. the psychology that endorses terrorism will still exist and the means of carrying out terrorism will still exist.

now that terrorists know how deeply terrorism done here effects us, they may be contemplating doing it again as soon as possible. terrorism has always happened 'everywhere else' or never been that successful when carried out here. we have to get as much retaliation as possible just to send a message that any terrorism on american soil is the equavilent of slow suicide.
 
nitlyan said:


They have been brain washed for years to HATE the USA. EVERY ONE HATES THE USA!!!!! You know why????????/ Because we are the BEST, BIggest, MOST Wealthy god damn country in the world and everyone is envious. EVERYONE!


i wonder what the real reason is. i have come up with about 6 so far


1. our foreign policies are humiliating & abusive
2. we don't respect holy land
3. isreal
4. we declare war on other muslims
5. we left muslims to die after they stopped being useful in the cold war
6. people need an enemy to unify them & give their life meaning (we have a war on drugs, when that gets old, a gulf war, then a war on crime, war on guns, war on smoking, etc)

any other reasons i'm missing.
 
nordstrom said:



i wonder what the real reason is. i have come up with about 6 so far


1. our foreign policies are humiliating & abusive
2. we don't respect holy land
3. isreal
4. we declare war on other muslims
5. we left muslims to die after they stopped being useful in the cold war
6. people need an enemy to unify them & give their life meaning (we have a war on drugs, when that gets old, a gulf war, then a war on crime, war on guns, war on smoking, etc)

any other reasons i'm missing.


I completely agree that we are hated because of these reasons.
 
nordstrom said:



i wonder what the real reason is. i have come up with about 6 so far


1. our foreign policies are humiliating & abusive
2. we don't respect holy land
3. isreal
4. we declare war on other muslims
5. we left muslims to die after they stopped being useful in the cold war
6. people need an enemy to unify them & give their life meaning (we have a war on drugs, when that gets old, a gulf war, then a war on crime, war on guns, war on smoking, etc)

any other reasons i'm missing.


1. This is often true but we also heap money on nations such as Egypt. You can't please everyone.

2. Too broad. Ideological differences are impossible to reconcile.

3. Our defense of the only Middle Eastern nation where Arabs can vote is not necessarily a bad thing. American soldiers have NEVER fought side by side with Israelis against Arabs or anyone.

4. The US has not formally declared war since World War 2. Our efforts in the Gulf and Bosnia were in defense of Muslims.

5. I don't know what you mean. We have made some Middle Eastern countries very rich, They just don't share that wealth with their people.

6. There is truth to #6. This is why there have been Palestinian refugess for 53 years. Any one of those neighboring countries could take them in. Instead, they remain - 3rd generation refugees!! They give Muslims in the region a reason to hate Israel.
 
nitlyan said:


First of all, you are an idiot. With that said, I will shred you and the thread starter to pieces. Ignorance is bliss! babyDoc is soooooooooooo correct about those Mid-East bastards not fighting and at least trying to overthrow their fucked up leaders. They are cowards...except the NA. At least those MEN have some balls. They are two faced and untrustworthy!! FREEDOM is NOT CHEAP! No one is gonna come give it to you. Well, we are trying to give it to many countries now. But, FUCK. our men were god damned slaughtered for years by the British. Those fuckin bloody pussies, loved their King and Queen hierarchy bullshit so much they had to try and rule everything. The USA is not trying to rule everything and everyone. We just want you to act civilized so we can conduct business with your people!!!!!!!! Our revolution was much more than taxation. Read about it MORON! I hate ignorant people who try and talk about politics, history, anything they "THINK" they know. What babydoc wwas trying to say was that we faught with nothing for the basic right to have true freedom. We faught with fucking sticks against canons!!!!! and still won, not easy, but won! Why can't those fucking pussies rise up and say no MORE, why? because deep down they agree. They have been brain washed for years to HATE the USA. EVERY ONE HATES THE USA!!!!! You know why????????/ Because we are the BEST, BIggest, MOST Wealthy god damn country in the world and everyone is envious. EVERYONE!

damn I wonder how you could type all that with your head up your ass you stupid fuck. don't tell me what I know and what I don't know asshole. I know more about politics and foreign policy than you will ever hope to. go fix your mullet and finish your 12 pack of strohs dipshit.
 
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