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Immortal Juicer
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John Walker supporting militant Islamic groups like Al-Queda and OBL takes the case to a different level. If it is evident that he planned to carry out attacks on the US such as 9/11, then I feel he should face the harshest penalty in our Justice system.
Someone who, at a very young age, is inquisitive enough to study religions alternative to the social norm of society, and devoted enough to travel abroad because of such strong religious conviction, has earned my respect.
From my experience in church, I have seen so much hypocrisy it is sickening. So many millions of people are devoted christians/jews/muslims when it is convenient. Anyone who talks the talk AND walks the walk has my utmost respect, no matter what religion they practice.
John Walker practiced Islam not because it was his parents religion, as most people do, but because he truly believed it. His convictions were strong enough to go against the societal norm and move to the middle east, eventually Afganistan.
After 9/11, his religious beliefs found him in the middle of a political war against his home country. He decided to fight for what he believed in, a traditional Islamic state in accordance with a strict interpretation of the Koran. When the state was invaded by Northern Alliance forces, who prior to 9/11 were US enemies, he took up arms against them. All this was prior to the US ground forces invading.
Mike Spann, the CIA agent who died in the prison riot where Walker was present, is a hero. He died fighting for our safety. The CIA's presence in Afganistan at the time was not publicized and John Walker did not know Americans were within his enemy forces. Many people hold Walker responsible for Spann's death, and if he is he should die, but most likely Walker believed he was fighting for his religion, against northern alliance forces.
Once he was identified as an American, the shit hit the fan and he was seen as a traitor to his country despite the fact he was fighting for his religious beliefs. Freedom of religion is a valued right to the US and we would not have the right if men were not willing to fight for their religious beliefs despite the fact that they were in the minority.
People refer to his email to his parents "condoning" the attack on the US Cole. He did not condone or advocate death, he questioned wether or not the US should have been there in the first place. A rational perspective like this could have prevented the attack of the Cole.
Bottom line, if he plotted to kill innocent Americans, fry his ass. Nobody in the WTC had shit to do with his religious beliefs. But if he fought for his religious convictions and defended what he truly believed to by the last "sacred state," against northern alliance, not US soldiers, he is a strong willed individual and may just be an unfortunate victim of circumstance.
I just dont want John Walked to be a scapegoat because we cannot find the real ones responsible for the 9/11 attacks, like OBL etc..
Again, no innocent people should die, and people that kill innocent people should be executed. The religious and political complications the Walker case are very complicated. We need to evaluate our Constitutional and human rights as well as those of John Walker before reaching a conclusion.
Someone who, at a very young age, is inquisitive enough to study religions alternative to the social norm of society, and devoted enough to travel abroad because of such strong religious conviction, has earned my respect.
From my experience in church, I have seen so much hypocrisy it is sickening. So many millions of people are devoted christians/jews/muslims when it is convenient. Anyone who talks the talk AND walks the walk has my utmost respect, no matter what religion they practice.
John Walker practiced Islam not because it was his parents religion, as most people do, but because he truly believed it. His convictions were strong enough to go against the societal norm and move to the middle east, eventually Afganistan.
After 9/11, his religious beliefs found him in the middle of a political war against his home country. He decided to fight for what he believed in, a traditional Islamic state in accordance with a strict interpretation of the Koran. When the state was invaded by Northern Alliance forces, who prior to 9/11 were US enemies, he took up arms against them. All this was prior to the US ground forces invading.
Mike Spann, the CIA agent who died in the prison riot where Walker was present, is a hero. He died fighting for our safety. The CIA's presence in Afganistan at the time was not publicized and John Walker did not know Americans were within his enemy forces. Many people hold Walker responsible for Spann's death, and if he is he should die, but most likely Walker believed he was fighting for his religion, against northern alliance forces.
Once he was identified as an American, the shit hit the fan and he was seen as a traitor to his country despite the fact he was fighting for his religious beliefs. Freedom of religion is a valued right to the US and we would not have the right if men were not willing to fight for their religious beliefs despite the fact that they were in the minority.
People refer to his email to his parents "condoning" the attack on the US Cole. He did not condone or advocate death, he questioned wether or not the US should have been there in the first place. A rational perspective like this could have prevented the attack of the Cole.
Bottom line, if he plotted to kill innocent Americans, fry his ass. Nobody in the WTC had shit to do with his religious beliefs. But if he fought for his religious convictions and defended what he truly believed to by the last "sacred state," against northern alliance, not US soldiers, he is a strong willed individual and may just be an unfortunate victim of circumstance.
I just dont want John Walked to be a scapegoat because we cannot find the real ones responsible for the 9/11 attacks, like OBL etc..
Again, no innocent people should die, and people that kill innocent people should be executed. The religious and political complications the Walker case are very complicated. We need to evaluate our Constitutional and human rights as well as those of John Walker before reaching a conclusion.
