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THOSE PESKY, COMMUNITY-SERVING BOY SCOUTS - (Print)


“On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my Country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.”

-The Boy Scout Oath

Those Boy Scouts are at it, as usual. After all the lawsuits they’ve inspired, and despite the many organizations that have ceased to fund them, the Boy Scouts of America keep at their dastardly efforts to help boys grow into men of strong character. What’s more, every week in our communities Boy Scouts are committing good deeds. Consider the plots they’ve carried out within the past few weeks.

Maryland

Boy Scout Troop 5 of Hagerstown, MD recently sponsored a blood drive at the local Red Cross. The young men personally encouraged supermarket patrons and passersby to come donate blood. Several of their own friends and family members also donated. Through the scouts’ efforts, the Hagerstown blood supply was provided with 27 fresh new pints.

Illinois

In Burbank, IL, 17-year-old Timothy Patula and other members of Troop 481 worked to fill a local food bank with nonperishables. Patula, working to earn the rank of Eagle Scout, decided he wanted to help the hungry as his community service project. With the help of other troop members, Patula canvassed neighborhoods and later collected nearly 3,400 food items. He says the experience of organizing the food drive has taught him how to be a better leader.

Just down the road in Wadsworth, IL, Troop 675 spent a late April weekend collecting bicycle donations. Eagle Scout candidate Chris Valent decided to do a bike drive as his community service project. By cooperating with Working Bikes Cooperative, the 200 bikes Valent’s Scout troop collected will be given to people in Angola who otherwise would have to walk.

“My project is really helpful and a good cause,” Valent said. “I feel very happy inside.”

Texas

A number of Boy Scouts in Houston recently went camping overnight in the woods and learned to shoot skeet. This would be pretty normal fare, except that these Scouts from Troop 878 are inner city kids from a rougher part of Houston. Many of them have no father at home. Rather than roaming the streets on a Saturday, these scouts are in the woods earning merit badges. The Boy Scout leaders are local fathers and volunteers who give their time to help these young men see a world bigger than the gangs of the inner city.

The Boy Scouts organization continues to reach out to the communities of America, helping boys grow into good men. Yet, since winning their landmark freedom of association case in 2000, the Scouts have constantly had to fight for support. They’ve been pushed out of buildings, denied financial backing, and have had to pay for privileges that were traditionally donated.

Connecticut

Most recently, the Boy Scouts have been under attack (albeit a passive-aggressive one) from the school superintendent of Greenwich, Connecticut. For the past 70 years, Boy Scout leaders have gone into the schools of Greenwich one time each year to give a 10-minute recruiting presentation. Superintendent Betty Sternberg put the kibosh on that this year. Sternberg argued that those ten minutes took away from precious instructional time and were not fair to the girls who stayed in the classroom.

Many members of the community disagree with Sternberg and think the tradition is just fine. Quite a few have encouraged the superintendent to allow the Scouts to continue recruiting at school next year. The Boy Scouts have found it harder to interest new members without access to the schools. This is one of dozens of different battles, small and large, that various troops have faced in recent years.

The Boy Scouts of America nears its 100th anniversary in 2010. For the past 98 years, the Boy Scouts have taught boys to be upstanding young men and good citizens. As we support the organization, we encourage another generation to learn principles that will help them, and help them to help others.

(I guess fags being fags are more important than common sense to some people) :rolleyes:
 
my son is in cub scouts and my wife and i are the den leaders and it is the best thing we ever had my son do. we all go camping together all the time. matter of fact we just went camping last weekend. i am all for what we do for these boys. every penny put in is accounted for and posted in our weekly bulletin so everyone knows how much we have and where it all goes. to say that 10 minutes takes away from the girls is stupid being that the sisters of the cub scouts get to go on the camping trips with us. the girls are involved in the fun stuff but they dont wear the uniform or have to do the rank stuff. imop id rather be a girl that has a brother in cub scouts cause you get all the fun stuff without having to do the work.
 
I was a boy scout. Now I say fuck em. They can discriminate against people who don't believe in god, wtff is that.
 
jestro said:
I was a boy scout. Now I say fuck em. They can discriminate against people who don't believe in god, wtff is that.

1) Me too, then went Boys Brigade
2) Seriously? Fuck that shit.
 
Stoßtruppe said:
1) Me too, then went Boys Brigade
2) Seriously? Fuck that shit.
Yeah, it was fun. I liked the camping trips.

They kicked out this eagle scout a couple of years ago who admitted he didn't believe in god. Pretty fucked up.
 
Boy Scouts are great for horny old perverted gay men who are too cheap to fly to thailand.

Soccer parents can put their kids in religious camps. I don't care. Mine will go to band camp, and bang the girls the other boy scout douches can't.

r
 
I guess on the other side it would be better for young men to sell drugs, join gangs, and hop in their grandmothers SUV and go for a joyride...

I opt for the Boy Scouts
 
jestro said:
I was a boy scout. Now I say fuck em. They can discriminate against people who don't believe in god, wtff is that.

You're hilarious. People like are are to stupid to realize how much of a hypocrite you are.

Its ok for fags to have their little fag groups. And athiests to get togather for a big ol god bashing ralley, or for granola crunchers to go hiking and love on some trees. If you don't agree with the ideas assosiated with any of those particular groups you're not allowed to join. Right?

So why can't people with traditional moral values have groups of their own. I've got a newsflash for you assholes. You are the intolerant ones.
 
Army Vet said:
I guess on the other side it would be better for young men to sell drugs, join gangs, and hop in their grandmothers SUV and go for a joyride...

I opt for the Boy Scouts
You make a good point
 
pin said:
You're hilarious. People like are are to stupid to realize how much of a hypocrite you are.

Its ok for fags to have their little fag groups. And athiests to get togather for a big ol god bashing ralley, or for granola crunchers to go hiking and love on some trees. If you don't agree with the ideas assosiated with any of those particular groups you're not allowed to join. Right?

So why can't people with traditional moral values have groups of their own. I've got a newsflash for you assholes. You are the intolerant ones.
I'm an Atheist and I would welcome theists into any organization I founded. In my experience, Atheists don't impose their values like theists....just sayin.
 
javaguru said:
I'm an Atheist and I would welcome theists into any organization I founded. In my experience, Atheists don't impose their values like theists....just sayin.

So what are you saying? No such thing as a group of like minded people should exsist? Everyones envited or no one at all.

If you want to raise your kids to be athiests thats great. Go for it man knock yourself out. The boyscouts don't care. So don't send your kids to boyscouts. Send them to some athiest club where they can lay around all day and ponder how a mud puddle farted a trillion years ago and alacazam! Trees, monkeys, frogs and mushrooms popped out.

It makes absolutly no sense to join a group with philosophies and view points that are opposed to yours and then demand that they change to accommodate you. Come on. Are you serious?

What would happen if a bunch of roughneck oilfield workers tried to join Greenpeace and then demand that Greenpeace stop all of its enviro nazi nonsense. Just an example.
 
javaguru said:
I'm an Atheist and I would welcome theists into any organization I founded. In my experience, Atheists don't impose their values like theists....just sayin.

I disagree. Atheists are like any other group of people - many try to impose their wills on others.
 
pin said:
What would happen if a bunch of roughneck oilfield workers tried to join Greenpeace and then demand that Greenpeace stop all of its enviro nazi nonsense. Just an example.

I'd bring a video camera and start cheering.

r
 
pin said:
So what are you saying? No such thing as a group of like minded people should exsist? Everyones envited or no one at all.

If you want to raise your kids to be athiests thats great. Go for it man knock yourself out. The boyscouts don't care. So don't send your kids to boyscouts. Send them to some athiest club where they can lay around all day and ponder how a mud puddle farted a trillion years ago and alacazam! Trees, monkeys, frogs and mushrooms popped out.

It makes absolutly no sense to join a group with philosophies and view points that are opposed to yours and then demand that they change to accommodate you. Come on. Are you serious?

What would happen if a bunch of roughneck oilfield workers tried to join Greenpeace and then demand that Greenpeace stop all of its enviro nazi nonsense. Just an example.

+1

If people don't like the boy scouts I am sure MS-13, the crips, Aryan Nation and a ton of other organizations will gladly snap them up and get them moving in the right direction.

With all of the jobs leaving the country kids need something to do. Gangs will teach them teamwork, how to use firearms, and how to exploit law abiding citizens, hell, there is even a church up in Chicago they can join to help them along. I hear they hate homos up there. Just spend 20 years in that church and you can run for president.
 
pin said:
So what are you saying? No such thing as a group of like minded people should exsist? Everyones envited or no one at all.

If you want to raise your kids to be athiests thats great. Go for it man knock yourself out. The boyscouts don't care. So don't send your kids to boyscouts. Send them to some athiest club where they can lay around all day and ponder how a mud puddle farted a trillion years ago and alacazam! Trees, monkeys, frogs and mushrooms popped out.

It makes absolutly no sense to join a group with philosophies and view points that are opposed to yours and then demand that they change to accommodate you. Come on. Are you serious?

What would happen if a bunch of roughneck oilfield workers tried to join Greenpeace and then demand that Greenpeace stop all of its enviro nazi nonsense. Just an example.
You posted the perfect example of theist intolerance. I don't care if someone worships a turd as long as they don't demand public funds/preferences. I would let them into a public service/values oriented organization as long as they represented those basic moral values regardless of belief in any particular Santa Clause be it Christian, Muslim, or other. Just sayin'.
 
javaguru said:
You posted the perfect example of theist intolerance. I don't care if someone worships a turd as long as they don't demand public funds/preferences. I would let them into a public service/values oriented organization as long as they represented those basic moral values regardless of belief in any particular Santa Clause be it Christian, Muslim, or other. Just sayin'.

Are you kidding? Please tell me you're kidding.
 
pin said:
Are you kidding? Please tell me you're kidding.
You're the one making the assertion that bears the burden of proof. The Boy Scouts have access to public lands and therefore should not discriminate based on religious bias.
 
javaguru said:
You're the one making the assertion that bears the burden of proof. The Boy Scouts have access to public lands and therefore should not discriminate based on religious bias.

Dude. I hate to be the one to break this to you but everybody has access to public land. There's a gay pride festivel every summer here at a local state park. I doubt Billy Grahm is invited.

You haven't even made a point yet. If an athiest group puts a sign out front that says theists invited, its no longer an athiest group is it?

If you wanted to start a youth group for young campers and wanted to call it Darwin's kids and teach naturalist ideas, thats fine, who cares? No one would ever sue you and demand that you allow little muslim kids and read the koran.
 
i cant believe how many stupid replies are on this thread. if you honestly believe the boy scouts are a bad influence on kids then you have serious self issues that you need to deal with. yes they do have a strong belief in god and we teach kids to follow god and do the right thing and make the best decisions. if you dont agree with their beliefs than dont join. just like i am against everything jahovah witnesses are all about. but i stay away from them and i dont bash them and their beliefs.
 
Uh, I have no idea what the heck happened to the scouts in the US, but in Britain it's about bringing young boys / men (and now women apparently since the 90s) together to socialise, do some adventure training, camping etc, trying to bring out good qualities in young people that are independent of religion.

outdoor activities aiming at developing character, citizenship, and personal fitness qualities among youth.

The Boy Scout program is designed to develop youths who have a high degree of self-reliance, initiative, courage, helpfulness, integrity and resourcefulness. Boy Scouts should be helpful; understand their society, heritage, and culture; have respect for the rights of others; and be positive leader-citizens.


Baden-Powell would be rolling over in his grave.
 
bigmann245 said:
i cant believe how many stupid replies are on this thread. if you honestly believe the boy scouts are a bad influence on kids then you have serious self issues that you need to deal with. yes they do have a strong belief in god and we teach kids to follow god and do the right thing and make the best decisions. if you dont agree with their beliefs than dont join. just like i am against everything jahovah witnesses are all about. but i stay away from them and i dont bash them and their beliefs.

+1

One of the reasons why this country is going down in the shitter is because traditional values, which the boy scouts instill in young men, are being attacked and destroyed.
 
Army Vet said:
+1

One of the reasons why this country is going down in the shitter is because traditional values, which the boy scouts instill in young men, are being attacked and destroyed.
WTF is a traditional value and why is that good????:confused: There was a time when slavery and monarchism were "traditional" values in America. I don't consider homophobia and superstition positive values even though they're "traditional".
 
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