Test, Tren.............?

[bigdho]

Im ready to run my test tren cycle but Im questioning my choice of test. I went with prop becauce of the short ester I thought I would just combine it with the tren in one pin and shoot 100mgs of prop and 75 mgs of tren ed. But lately Ive been hearing peoplr talkin about a lot of problems with prop So Im wondering if I should switch to a longer ester test.....By the way Im running a bulking cycle with anavar gh igf 1 and all the preventative and pct drugs I need.
Thanks in advance.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Prop hurts after a few weeks of that you'll change your mind.. your better off going with cyp.

It will keep your plasma levels more stable and help maintian your sex drive.

Keep in mind.. prop has a half life of 3 days while cyp is somehwer between 7 and 9 (I always found it to be closer to 7)

I would never touch tren without test (hell Ill never touch tren again anyways) turned me into a fucking eunich

 

[THEEGAME2544]

I loved test and tren bulker. I'm just finishing it up now. Did test enanthate weeks 1-12. Tren weeks 1-10. And now running dbol from weeks 11-15. I gained all my weight within the first 8-9 weeks and haven't gained a pound since. I've actually been losing a bit of bodyfat for the last 7 weeks. Been trying like hell to gain more pounds since the 9 week mark, but I've been completely stagnant. But I'm happy with the 18-20 lb increase. While lowering my bodyfat a percent or two. But the test/tren combo cannot be beat. Very quality gains if your diet and training are in check.

 

[bigdho]

Prop hurts after a few weeks of that you'll change your mind.. your better off going with cyp.

It will keep your plasma levels more stable and help maintian your sex drive.

Keep in mind.. prop has a half life of 3 days while cyp is somehwer between 7 and 9 (I always found it to be closer to 7)

I would never touch tren without test (hell Ill never touch tren again anyways) turned me into a fucking eunich

LOL.....this will be my first time useing tren so wewill see. You think cyp at 7-800mgs once a week is better? To tell you the truth thats what I was leaning twards.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Yup.. MUCH better choice..

Not that prop is bad.. but having to do those painful ass shots every 3-4 days really sucks.

Prop.. especially in the quads hurts.. I have pretty thick quads so I really like injecting there. Cyp doesnt hurt at all.

BTW Youre gonna fuckign grow like a god damn weed on that. Make sure youre eating well and use a VERY well planned out PCT..

I cant stress enough how important PCT is going to be for a first timer using tren and test.

Highly recommend Dostinex and HCG. Stay the fuck away from clomid.. shit will make you suicidal in the dosages required to come back from tren.

 

[mikebzt]

I loved test and tren bulker. I'm just finishing it up now. Did test enanthate weeks 1-12. Tren weeks 1-10. And now running dbol from weeks 11-15. I gained all my weight within the first 8-9 weeks and haven't gained a pound since. I've actually been losing a bit of bodyfat for the last 7 weeks. Been trying like hell to gain more pounds since the 9 week mark, but I've been completely stagnant. But I'm happy with the 18-20 lb increase. While lowering my bodyfat a percent or two. But the test/tren combo cannot be beat. Very quality gains if your diet and training are in check.

how much of test and tren did you take. I will be running a similar cycle and it is always promising to hear great results from others.

 

[hammertime30]

I loved test and tren bulker. I'm just finishing it up now. Did test enanthate weeks 1-12. Tren weeks 1-10. And now running dbol from weeks 11-15. I gained all my weight within the first 8-9 weeks and haven't gained a pound since. I've actually been losing a bit of bodyfat for the last 7 weeks. Been trying like hell to gain more pounds since the 9 week mark, but I've been completely stagnant. But I'm happy with the 18-20 lb increase. While lowering my bodyfat a percent or two. But the test/tren combo cannot be beat. Very quality gains if your diet and training are in check.

The body will only grow so much so fast...your lucky that you gained up to week 9...Alot of use stop growing at week 5-6....Just regroup and come hard next cycle....

 

[bigdho]

Yup.. MUCH better choice..

Not that prop is bad.. but having to do those painful ass shots every 3-4 days really sucks.

Prop.. especially in the quads hurts.. I have pretty thick quads so I really like injecting there. Cyp doesnt hurt at all.

BTW Youre gonna fuckign grow like a god damn weed on that. Make sure youre eating well and use a VERY well planned out PCT..

I cant stress enough how important PCT is going to be for a first timer using tren and test.

Highly recommend Dostinex and HCG. Stay the fuck away from clomid.. shit will make you suicidal in the dosages required to come back from tren.

LOL.... This is my first time with tren but NOT my first cycle...... this will be my 5th cycle and so far Ive had no problems with clomid.......yet. I use dr swales method of pct. Im also up in the air about my tren dose this my first go around with home brew and I think I may be a little hi at 75 mg ed, what do you think?

 

[hammertime30]

LOL.... This is my first time with tren but NOT my first cycle...... this will be my 5th cycle and so far Ive had no problems with clomid.......yet. I use dr swales method of pct. Im also up in the air about my tren dose this my first go around with home brew and I think I may be a little hi at 75 mg ed, what do you think?

If it's your 5th cycle then I wouldn't be too concern about tren...200-300mg a week is known to work wonders...start with 75mg eod and see how it works...you can always bump it up if needed...

 

[jbradley2093]

Yup.. MUCH better choice..

Not that prop is bad.. but having to do those painful ass shots every 3-4 days really sucks.

Prop.. especially in the quads hurts.. I have pretty thick quads so I really like injecting there. Cyp doesnt hurt at all.

BTW Youre gonna fuckign grow like a god damn weed on that. Make sure youre eating well and use a VERY well planned out PCT..

I cant stress enough how important PCT is going to be for a first timer using tren and test.

Highly recommend Dostinex and HCG. Stay the fuck away from clomid.. shit will make you suicidal in the dosages required to come back from tren.

How much clomid do you have to take in your opinion to recover from tren?

 

[bigdho]

If it's your 5th cycle then I wouldn't be too concern about tren...200-300mg a week is known to work wonders...start with 75mg eod and see how it works...you can always bump it up if needed...

Do you think doing ed injections is better in order to keep blood levels stable?
Maybe start at 37.5 mgs ed and increase if Im not slammed with sides?

 

[wnt2bBeast]

you can get away with eod but yes ed injects would be better..i think what hammer suggested is good 75mg eod and if need be you can always adjust it..if you do decide to go with the longer ester test do not go with the longer ester tren..stick with the acetate for the first go around see how you handle it..sounds like your on the right track..

 

[majutsu]

bigdho, you are bigger and more experienced than I, and tren 75ed is very manageable. Contrary to some, tren is fairly well-tolerated in most individuals, which is amazing since it is a really strong, progesteronic nandrolone-type chemical (i.e. a modified deca). I want to see before and after pics!! This is going to be hu-uge for you . . . BTW prop is very easy to mix with your tren. Some prop doesn't hurt at all. I love GTP in general, but their prop is painful shit. BD prop is absolutely excellent and painless IMO. It goes nicely with tren to have a short test ester, just makes sense. I can't wait to see how you respond to this, given my paltry base and it's response. . .

 

[bigdho]

bigdho, you are bigger and more experienced than I, and tren 75ed is very manageable. Contrary to some, tren is fairly well-tolerated in most individuals, which is amazing since it is a really strong, progesteronic nandrolone-type chemical (i.e. a modified deca). I want to see before and after pics!! This is going to be hu-uge for you . . . BTW prop is very easy to mix with your tren. Some prop doesn't hurt at all. I love GTP in general, but their prop is painful shit. BD prop is absolutely excellent and painless IMO. It goes nicely with tren to have a short test ester, just makes sense. I can't wait to see how you respond to this, given my paltry base and it's response. . .

Thanks for the info...........Im thinkin about going to test enan instead for weeks 1-10 then the last 2 weeks switch to prop. Ill take pics

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I've never had problems doing ed prop shots, other than water retention (which I HATE). For some prop injections are painful, for others they are not. You do not know until you use it.

 

[bigdho]

I've never had problems doing ed prop shots, other than water retention (which I HATE). For some prop injections are painful, for others they are not. You do not know until you use it.

Im tossed on which test to use prop ed or enan once a week...........Which would you do????????

ANyone please chim in..........much thanks (and K)

 

[slat1]

Ha ha.. I hate every day or eve eod shots.. I went with tren ent and test ent... I will post my results at the appropriate time...

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Im tossed on which test to use prop ed or enan once a week...........Which would you do????????

ANyone please chim in..........much thanks (and K)

For test/tren stacks I prefer ed prop/tren injections.

 

[bigdho]

For test/tren stacks I prefer ed prop/tren injections.

Thanks bro.......that was my origional pic but I thought to much about it and talked myself out of it go figure

If one did do test enan once a week is ok correct?

 

[bigdho]

BBF...........When your on prop ed are you by any chance useing QV prop?
I keep hearing that QV prop causes a lot of negitive sides, test flu ext.....

 

[Deleted member 33117]

QV? No I would never use under-dosed, dirty animal products. I have used prop ONCE from a UG lab (TF) and the rest has been homebrew.

 

[bigdho]

QV? No I would never use under-dosed, dirty animal products. I have used prop ONCE from a UG lab (TF) and the rest has been homebrew.

I hear ya

 

[bigdho]

I have 2 mre questions

Am I correct in thinking that you inject test cypinate 1 time a week?

What do you think about SYD group products?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Cyp I'll do once a week, enathate every 4 days, prop ed has been my injection frequincy when using.

Honestly I have no expereince with SYD group. I know I've read about them in teh past, but cannot remember if their rep was good or bad.

 

[bigdho]

Cyp I'll do once a week, enathate every 4 days, prop ed has been my injection frequincy when using.

Honestly I have no expereince with SYD group. I know I've read about them in teh past, but cannot remember if their rep was good or bad.

Thanks for the help............agian.

Sorry for the dumb questions, just dont want to do anything without proper planning.
Thanks agian.