test/tren and armidex

[gamorrah]

need some advice,

age 36
6'0
205
10.5% BF

7th cycle
20 years lifting



Im 2 weeks into a 75mg ed tren cycle. I just started testoviron depot (enanthate) 250mg per week.



Im looking to get cut and hard and love the tren so far. Im a little gyno paranoid and would like advice on what kind of ldex dose to take during cycle to cover any test gyno or bloat. Any PCT advice would help also.

here are my plans, please comment.

1-6 tren 75mg/ED
2-6 test E 250mg/weekly
2-6 ldex .25 ED
8-10 nolva 40mg ED
10-12 nolva 20mg ED

any opinions?
How long before I feel the test?
what about HCG? Is it necessary?

 

[Goodfellow]

Test enanthate takes 2 weeks or so before you feel it. I recomend that you run it at least 8 weeks. HCG is only necessary if your testes are in atrophy.

 

[gamorrah]

I can increase to 8 weeks, should I stick with the Enanthate for the additional 2 weeks?

any more opinions on HCG and my planned PCT?

Does the armidex dose look correct?


thanks

 

[The Heretic]

Take HCG @ 250IU's every 4-5 days when on cycle. IMO HCG should be used for any cycle in which your natural test is disrupted. And with the cycle you have planned, it will be. If you're worried about gyno that dose of ldex is fine.

 

[gamorrah]

I appreciate it. There seems to be a lot of conflicting information regarding HCG. I should take it while on cycle and stop at the completion of cycle, correct?
Do I stop 2 weeks after my last Test E shot, before PCT, or should I take my last HCG shot when I take my last test shot?

thanks,

I think the boys are already shrinking after 2 weeks of tren!

 

[The Heretic]

During my last cycle I took HCG 7 days after my last shot of AAS (I was also on a test/tren cycle) then started PCT. My boy's never got smaller the whole cycle (10 weeks)

 

[emidoohann]

You should be aware of tren can cause gyne due to prolactin secretion. Use some bromocriptine, besides hcg, clomid for pct.
During cycle use arimidex or femara, i prefer the late

 

[The Heretic]

He already stated he was using arimidex throughout the cycle.

 

[gamorrah]

it seems there is still some debate over using nolva or bromo. Are the OTC methods efective for prevention? Vitex, B6 etc...?