Test question,plz help

[YoungAndWeak]

I was telling my friend about how Im gonna run 500mg test enanthate for 20 weeks,well he told me something very interesting I think.he says if I stay on for that loing my norm test levels are gonna be 500 plus,now when i get off I wont ever make natty gains,what do you guys think?

 

[drrman]

20 weeks is a waste, you won't see gains past week 8

 

[YoungAndWeak]

ddr thanks u may be right,not specifically 8 weeks tho it may be different for each person.True once I stop seeing gains Im gonna get off.Or Ill run till I bulk up and stop gaining then cut and get off once Im done cutting.But can someone help me with my question?

 

[deca300]

the only way long cycles work for me is when i switch what im taking about every 6 -8weeks...go with the test enan for 8 weeks then swith to prop and fina , then switch to something else ...i think this is the only way to keep making gains on a long cycle...and ur question about not making natural gains ...after being on a cycle that long ur gonna be shutdown ....clomid is a must, but even then it will take a long time for you to make natural gains

 

[YoungAndWeak]

Oh well as long as I maintain my muscle off cycle Im ok,yes I know clomid is a must.I am gonna give up on gaining naturally because on cycle I eat like 500gm of proteina day and trying to eat like that off cycle is a waist of money anyway cuz ur body wont use it all to build muscle.

 

[Slider]

I just had to post; long cycles do produce gains not as much as your first 6-8wks. of the cycle but some pretty nice gains.
And yes you need to switch up the products, Test Enath is what is my fav which I’m running for 12wks @ 600mg/wk. and was frontloaded @ 1800mg/first week.
Again long cycles are not for everyone and yes every cycle after you will be upping your doses.
Don’t forget your anti-e’s and your good buddy Clomid.
I’m in wk.18 of 26 and gaining aprox. 4lbs/week in strength give or take the dam good days and the shitty flat days.
You MUST also keep you diet or eating in order because as you grow you also need to eat more and rest a lot more for recovery.

Enjoy and don’t be scared away from long cycles.

Slider

P.S. 33% of your body grows when you sleep.

 

[cyp]

I don't see how switching to a different test ester is going to improve gains. After all, the active drug, i.e. testosterone, is the same no matter which one you use. Switching from test to fina might make more sense, but I have never done that so I won't speculate about how well it works.

The other problem with such a long cycle is that it may take a long time to recover when you finally come off. Personally, I would do 1250/wk for 8 weeks, or 1000/wk for 10 weeks.

 

[jc21]

20 weeks is a waste, you won't see gains past week 8

umm...just wondering where you got this info from. considering that it wont kick in till week 3-4....so you are saying you are only gonna get 4-5 weeks of benefit from it? my physique will definatly say different to that after a few 16 weekers.

i think you will be fine youngandweak...especially at a low dose like that. you might wanna hit up some hcg halfway through. then hit up some clomid when you are off and you will probably make natural gains.

 

[YoungAndWeak]

Hey thanks alot everyone.Whats up jc thanks for ur help ur always there for me bro.Jesus slider! 4 lbs a week on test?Well see I had some goals set,I figured if I eat like an animal (7-8000 cals) I can average 2 lbs of muscle a week for 20 weeks which would put me from my current bw of 205 to 245 which seems awesome just thinkn about it.I dont understand how u can gain 4 lbs a week tho,I bet ur closer to ur nat genetic limit then I am.That still sounds awesome!Well guys what Im gonna do is run the enanthate for 20 weeks or till I stop seeing gains.Im aware Im gonna take longer to recover but it comes with the territory I guess huh.I do have clomid and my anti-e's.Thanks to all! Oh by the way i got a bottle of prop to start seeing gains right away,Im thinking of doing 50mg ed for 20 days or I might just do 100mg ed for 10 days.