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Test Prop, Tren Ace, Var for MMA performance

eminence32

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Looking for some advice.

Stats: 26yo, 6', 195lbs

Background: 9 years of lifting with the first 6 only being semi serious. 6 years of mma with the first 4 being on and off. I have done three 6 week cycles of test prop this year (250mg EOD). Beginning of the year I was 180 at around 10% bf. I got up to 205 on cycle and I am now 195 at around 13% bf three weeks after my last cycle.

I don't fight so I don't have to worry about being tested. But I would like to stay on short esters and short cycles to minimize side effects and get back to normal as quickly as possible.

Problems: I felt very bloated, slow, and tired on prop. My cardio was horrible with the extra muscle and water weight on cycle. I took .5mcg of Letro ED on cycle to try and reduce bloat but I still carried about 5-7lbs of water each cycle.

Goals: Increase recovery time, increase strength, harden up, minimal to no side effects, minimal effect on cardio, lean out to 185 and stay there.

Which cycle would be better for MMA?

6 weeks 50mg Test Prop EOD, 50mg Var ED, .5mcg Letro ED, PCT is Nolva 60-40-40-20mg.
OR
6 weeks 25mg Test Prop EOD, 25mg Tren Hex EOD, 50mg Var ED, .5mcg Letro ED, PCT is Nolva 60-40-40-20mg.

Questions: I know Var is mild and will give me some small strength gains. Does it help or hurt cardio? Will I be taking enough Test to balance some of the Tren sides and will I be taking enough of each to give me small strength gains?
 
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I do mma. I have used test and sarms. A sarms imo is the best bet for mma. My cardio was awesome on the stack and strength was great.

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dont run the tren if u value ur cardio, it can also make u hold water

u can sub mast for tren, it'll dry u up better then tren although u wont get as much strength

letro should be used in case of emergencies for gyno, not as a regular AI,coz it kills ur estrogen, get some forma-stanzol

u need to do some research on a proper PCT coz nolva alone isnt gonna cut it
 
you need to have a lower body fat to run mast... it needs to be under 10%... anavar is not going to help your cardio either... it can give some pretty bad pumps during cardio... tren will fucking kill your cardio...

i always recommend halo for fighters... 4 week cycle... you will get some crazy strength and aggression... i am just really lost on the fact that you are saying you gained water weight on test yet you have it listed again... i have to think that there was something very wrong with your diet... prop on its own does not cause much bloat at all and running letro alongside it would completely kill your estrogen and you would not be holding any water... so something is just not right with what you are saying... whether its your diet or your gear, something doesn't add up here...
 
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