test enanthate substitute?

[tempest20003]

well okay ive been suggested a dbol/test enanthate cycle, anyways test enanthate is an inject if im not mistaken, which i do not want to do, so im just wondering if there is any other test i can use oraly that will act the same? im gonna run the cycle about 4 or 5 weeks, then some clomid afterwards and then ill proably run an accutane cycle to get rid of the acne i may run into, i already have a slight acne problem and have never run a cycle before

 

[manny78]

Andriol: you'd need a shitload of it in order to be effective. So that means more expensive at the end.

Methyltest: too hardcore for my taste. bad for the liver, nasty sides.

Affraid of needles ? lol

 

[Mad_World]

You may find it odd but injectable steroids are generally much safer and have less sides than oral ones. Because of the bad image of shooting yourself peoples tend to believe that injectable AAS are worst, it's just not the case.

In all honesty, if you are a AAS virgin you will probably grow just fine on an oral cycle only, but nowhere near what you would gain with an injectable.

And once again INJECTABLES ARE SAFER!!!

You are either:

a) afraid of needles: no need to be, you do it once and realize that it's not bad ... after 2-3 shots it's no big deal. Some even look forward to injecting!

b) believe that using only oral steroids is somewhat less "unethical" than injectable ones. I understand that point of view, taking a pill may look better than injecting. However a steroid is a steroid. Be it injectable or oral, you are still using a performance-enhancing drug.

c) did not know that oral steroids where potentially more dangerous that injectables ones.

 

[Mad_World]

Furthermore, stacking two orals is just asking for liver trouble. And as manny78 stated, andriol is just not very effective (IMHO it's on par with 1-test and 1-AD which are officially "supplements"), plus it's not readily available (hard to find in North America) and it will cost you a bunch load of money.

If you really want to avoid injecting at all cost, a d-bol/1-test (or 1-AD) cycle might be good for you. Not as effective as stacking an oral with an injectable steroid, but still not bad.

 

[tempest2003]

okay, well u will proably bash and flame me fore this but my reasons for not injecting are:

1. im 18, still in school, living with parents still, if they see needles or syrenges laying around the shit hits the fan, and ill proably get kicked out.

2. i can shoot up durring class, but i can pop a pill easy between classes or in the locker room or what ever, thats no problem.

3. i freekin dont like needles at all, its just, i dunno, im a needlephobic hah even if i did just make that word up.

4. extra expenses for syrenges, needles.

5. more chance for possible contamination and infection.

 

[Krazzylad]

juicing at age 18 is just stupid.Theres all kinds of ways to fuck yourself up at this age with juice do some research and scare yourself. Also if your scared of needles dont juice bottom line.

 

[Mad_World]

1. im 18, still in school, living with parents still, if they see needles or syrenges laying around the shit hits the fan, and ill proably get kicked out.
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Many peoples on this board will tell you that until you leave home you have no business using steroids. I tend to agree, but since your mind is set ... well hidding syringes and vials doesn't take up much more space than a bottle. And on the bottle it will likely be written 'Anabolic steroid" so if they find it it will have the same effect.

You might believe that you are wise and put the pills in a different bottle (Tylenol for example) but if you parents find little pink pills in a bottle they will ask questions!

But overall, of all the excuses you gave us, this is the best one.

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2. i can shoot up durring class, but i can pop a pill easy between classes or in the locker room or what ever, thats no problem.
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With a long ester like test enanthate you only need to inject once or twice per week since it has a long half-life. So injecting once on Sunday and once on Thursday morning is good. No need to inject in school! Only orals and short acting injectable steroids (test suspension, tren, winny...) need to be used everyday.

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3. i freekin dont like needles at all, its just, i dunno, im a needlephobic hah even if i did just make that word up.
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I believe that most everybody felt that way before they started injecting. I personally can't stand to a have a nurse poke me but I have zero problems injecting myself.

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4. extra expenses for syrenges, needles.
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Oh yeah, at least 5-10$ more for the cycle, syringes are very inexpensive sheesh. It will cost you MUCH more than what it would cost you for needles to build an all-oral cycle that will be about as effective.

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5. more chance for possible contamination and infection

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If you use a new pin everytime and rub some alcohol on the injection site and the needles the chance for infection is virtually nil (unless you have low quality gear).

Furthermore, the risk of getting an infection is MUCH lower than the risk of suffering liver damage if you use two orals.

 

[Mad_World]

juicing at age 18 is just stupid.Theres all kinds of ways to fuck yourself up at this age with juice do some research and scare yourself.

I tend to agree with that. But from experience a 18 years old is just not gonna listen to logic if it goes against what he believesto be right.

Originally posted by Krazzylad Also if your scared of needles dont juice bottom line. [/B]

So true!

 

[tempest2003]

okay, well, im at the end of my list, i have a great diet for building strength as far as nutrition and proteins go, im using everything legal i can think of, creatine, edcy, an eca stack for body fat, l glutamine, i thought about andro for a while, and ordered 3 things of it, but theres a lot of people who have used it who have developed testicular cancer i have found out from using it, it kinda scares me

 

[tempest2003]

im kind of debating with my self what I want to do anyways. If i want to wait till after track season to bulk or what, because i know if i do it durring track season its only gonna hurt my times by slowing me down, im a sprinter and need to loose all the weight possible but if i could get a good 6 pac and get bigger i would trade it off. Seems like all of the as's stimulate slow twitch fibers anyways