Test E, planning on adding Tren-A....but my nips fukin kill

[falcyou]

OK, so I did my 1st week of Test-E , (1) 500mg shot on Sat and another 250mg shot on Wed. I was planning on starting Tren-A along with it too as I just got some in (50mg EOD). The thing is, it's Friay and my nips are REALLY sensative from that Test-E. I have been taking 60mg of Nolva a day since the sensitivity begaon on Wed, but they are still really sore. I have plenty of AG-Guy Liquid Nolva on hand just in case (even some clomid pills although I think they expired 9 months ago).
Think I should still add the Tren-A in anyway (and lower Test to 2 250mg shots a week)? Just worried that if the test is already fucking with my nips, the addition of Tren may not help.

Whatchya think brothers?

 

[timtim]

i personally like man titties so i would say run the f ucker and see what cup size you get.


or, get youre present situation under control - 1 week and symptoms is not good so i would manage this with letro and see if it stops. during this discovery period i would order dostinex for the tren, sounds like you'll need it. then when everything is ok and the man titties are now a chest, hit the tren and dostinex.


i have never done tren and wont because i have terrible progesterone sides so maybe you should wait for someone with practical experience to chim in.

 

[falcyou]

forgot to mention, I do have the AG-Guys dostinex on hand as well brother. I have done a few runs with Tren-E before and always been fine. (although recovery of sex drive was an issue even with the dostinex)
Although I was combining it with Sus250 at a lower dose on those cycles. This is the 1st time I have gone above 500mg on the test and tried the enanthate blend of it.

so far no visable signs of gyno at also, still a hard pec...just w/ really sensative nips is all my brothers....which i prefer not to turn into titties.

i personally like man titties so i would say run the f ucker and see what cup size you get.


or, get youre present situation under control - 1 week and symptoms is not good so i would manage this with Femera - letrozole - and see if it stops. during this discovery period i would order dostinex for the trenbolone, sounds like you'll need it. then when everything is ok and the man titties are now a chest, hit the trenbolone and dostinex.


i have never done trenbolone and wont because i have terrible progesterone sides so maybe you should wait for someone with practical experience to chim in.

 

[nydj66]

Since you have sore nips already AND you're taking nolvadex, do not start the tren.

Nolvadex will upregulate progesterone receptors and make them more sensitive to stimulation by the tren. This could very likely make your gyno worse.

Stay with the nolvadex and start an AI as soon as possible. Femara (letrozole) is the strongest, arimidex is the least expensive to use, and aromasin is the least likely to decrease your libido.

Once your gyno symptoms are gone, stop the nolvadex and start tren. Stick with the AI until the end of the cycle. Strongly consider adding dostinex (cabergoline) or even selegiline and continue with that right through the end of PCT.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

Since you have sore nips already AND you're taking nolvadex, do not start the trenbolone.

Nolvadex will upregulate progesterone receptors and make them more sensitive to stimulation by the trenbolone. This could very likely make your gynecomastia worse.

Stay with the nolvadex and start an aromatase inhibitor as soon as possible. Femara (letrozole) is the strongest, arimidex is the least expensive to use, and aromasin is the least likely to decrease your libido.

Once your gynecomastia symptoms are gone, stop the nolvadex and start trenbolone. Stick with the aromatase inhibitor until the end of the cycle. Strongly consider adding dostinex (cabergoline) or even selegiline and continue with that right through the end of PCT - post cycle therapy - .

agree, maybe go with a heavier AI...maybe some letro...

 

[Indy]

Since you have sore nips already AND you're taking nolvadex, do not start the trenbolone.

Nolvadex will upregulate progesterone receptors and make them more sensitive to stimulation by the trenbolone. This could very likely make your gynecomastia worse.

Stay with the nolvadex and start an aromatase inhibitor as soon as possible. Femara (letrozole) is the strongest, arimidex is the least expensive to use, and aromasin is the least likely to decrease your libido.

Once your gynecomastia symptoms are gone, stop the nolvadex and start trenbolone. Stick with the aromatase inhibitor until the end of the cycle. Strongly consider adding dostinex (cabergoline) or even selegiline and continue with that right through the end of PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Exactly, dont make things worse. On a side note, I have never heard of anyone getting gyno symptoms from "E" that fast, it has not had time to get into your system much and you're already sore, there is something wrong there and progesterone is much harder to control than estrogen, dostinex is good stuff, but takes weeks to kick in full bore.

 

[falcyou]

Exactly, dont make things worse. On a side note, I have never heard of anyone getting gynecomastia symptoms from "E" that fast, it has not had time to get into your system much and you're already sore, there is something wrong there and progesterone is much harder to control than estrogen, dostinex is good stuff, but takes weeks to kick in full bore.

Thanks brothers....very solid advice as always!

I thought the same thing, that was awfully damn fast for Test-E to kick in. (i even feel stronger and more energized after 6 days)
It's by a lab called Othala which I had never heard of to be honest...who knows, maybe it's just straight sus or something? It's sure as hell labled Test-Enanthate 250mg though.

I see AG-Guys has both Letrozole and Aromasin...Im assuming those are both top notch and trusted just like their L-ISO (accutane) and L-Clen that I know works. Think I'll go with the Aromasin as not killing the sex drive is pretty damn important to me. Can you recommend a dose/amount schedule for that brother? (looks like it's 10mg strength per ml)
then if I understand correctly, drop the nolva and keep that aromasin going along with some dostinex for the remainder of my cycle. I was als gonna add some VAR to the last portion of the cycle as well.

Thanks pimps!!

 

[LAN T]

agree, maybe go with a heavier aromatase inhibitor...maybe some Femera - letrozole - ...

Last resort...break glass in case of emergency stuff. Letro is some strong joint crushing, libido punching, energy sapping stuff.

 

[falcyou]

LOL...good to know lan t

can you brothers give me proper dosing schedule for running Aromasin or Arimidex throughout the cycle?
looks like the aromasin comes in a strength of 10mg per 1ml and the arimidex comes in a strength of 1mg per 1ml. just trying to figure out how much to order to float me through my 10 week cycle.

 

[piningettysburg]

i'm running the adex at .5ed, that seems to be the standard

 

[nydj66]

For arimidex 0.5mg/day is a good starting point. You can up that to 1.0mg/day if needed.

Pharmaceutical aromasin comes in 25mg pills so 25mg/day is the typical dosage. Some people report good results at half that dosage.

I run it at 20mg/day. As you can see that's 15 days/bottle of liquid aromasin vs. 60 days/bottle of liquid arimidex.

 

[falcyou]

Liquid Arimidex it is then! Thanks brother....

For arimidex 0.5mg/day is a good starting point. You can up that to 1.0mg/day if needed.

Pharmaceutical aromasin comes in 25mg pills so 25mg/day is the typical dosage. Some people report good results at half that dosage.

I run it at 20mg/day. As you can see that's 15 days/bottle of liquid aromasin vs. 60 days/bottle of liquid arimidex.

 

[falcyou]

also an update, I did 60mg of Nolva yesterday and 80mg of Nolva today. The sensativity has definitley decreased a bit. Still a little sensative, but not near as bad as it was 2 days ago. Once the Arimidex arrives, I'll get on that ASAP and run nolva until it gets here....then I should be good to jump on the Tren A!
probably gonna do 100mg EOD as opposed to 50mg ED.

Liquid Arimidex it is then! Thanks brother....

 

[nydj66]

also an update, I did 60mg of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - yesterday and 80mg of Nolva today. The sensativity has definitley decreased a bit. Still a little sensative, but not near as bad as it was 2 days ago. Once the Arimidex arrives, I'll get on that ASAP and run Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - until it gets here....then I should be good to jump on the trenbolone A!
probably gonna do 100mg EOD as opposed to 50mg ED.

The arimidex will take about a week to kick in so it would be a good idea to overlap the nolva and a-dex for a week.