test cypionate?

[flex123]

I know test is test but I hear people saying that cypionate bloats a lot of people much more than enanthate. I thought cyp and enanthate were the same thing but just under different names, cyp being a United States one?

 

[Nucman]

Cyp, Eth, Prop,...All esters that are attached to test base(no ester, same as the body produces). The ester determines the active life of the component. Cyp and Eth have essentially the same half life, same sides, same dosing schedual, but 2 different compounds. Saying that one gives more bloat than another is just silliness. Test is test. Even blood levels will give the least sides.

 

[landser]

Cyp, Eth, Prop,...All esters that are attached to test base(no ester, same as the body produces). The ester determines the active life of the component. Cyp and Eth have essentially the same half life, same sides, same dosing schedual, but 2 different compounds. Saying that one gives more bloat than another is just silliness. Test is test. Even blood levels will give the least sides.

They may be "essentially" similar, but are not the same. Test is not test. Prop wont bloat you like enanthate, even if the dose is the same.

 

[Paulo]

They may be "essentially" similar, but are not the same. Test is not test. Prop wont bloat you like enanthate, even if the dose is the same.

Not to be contrary but what evidence can you provide to support this idea?


It is more possible, that with prop, one is more able to keep blood levels stable and with more stable blood levels comes less side effects. ??

This is the only mechanism I am aware of.

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

Hey Paulo, nice avatar dude! Show your pride!

 

[Paulo]

Hey Paulo, nice avatar dude! Show your pride!

Thanks man, you have no idea how good it makes me feel to get some props from a fellow iron brother.

When I go for my 115 max (shirted, wrapped, chalked and arched) next week, I will dedicate it to you bro.


Paulo

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

Thanks man, you have no idea how good it makes me feel to get some props from a fellow iron brother.

When I go for my 115 max (shirted, wrapped, chalked and arched) next week, I will dedicate it to you bro.


Paulo

 

[wootoom]

fuck paulo i wish i coud bench over 100 you lucky bastard

 

[tru_man777]

Enan, Cyp and Prop are very similar. Cyp has been a long time favorite for guys looking for the most mass and less side effects. I used both many times and prefer Cypionate. I get the same water retention on both, but more mass and strength on Cypionate. I prefer Propionate in a stack only (Sust) I have used it by itself and was not as impressed with it. I have also tried Aratest (Enanathate and Pripionate blend) and did not like it as much a Cypionate.

 

[genarr3]

I know test is test but I hear people saying that cypionate bloats a lot of people much more than enanthate. I thought cyp and enanthate were the same thing but just under different names, cyp being a United States one?

Yep that's pretty much correct. Cypionate was the US version of a very similar testosterone ester.
Propinate "may" bloat you less due to the frequent injects and steadier blood concenrations.

 

[nydj66]

Test is test. The only difference betweem the esters is how long they take to be absorbed from the injection site into the bloodstream (the half-life).

In the bloodstream catalaze enzymes strip the ester away and leave free testosterone which is what activates the androgen receptors. Therefore the androgen receptors have no idea what ester USED to be attached to the test molecule.

So, as long as you know the half life of the product you're using and choose a dosing schedule that provides even blood levels (this may require front loading for high half-life products); the same results can be obtained with any test ester.

In most cases, my recommendation is to stick with enanthate since it is the least expensive per mg of test. If you're only doing a short cycle, want the test out of your system fast, have a high tolerance for pain, and don't mind daily injections, then test prop is the best choice.

 

[genarr3]

Test is test. The only difference betweem the esters is how long they take to be absorbed from the injection site into the bloodstream (the half-life).

In the bloodstream catalaze enzymes strip the ester away and leave free testosterone which is what activates the androgen receptors. Therefore the androgen receptors have no idea what ester USED to be attached to the test molecule.

So, as long as you know the half life of the product you're using and choose a dosing schedule that provides even blood levels (this may require front loading for high half-life products); the same results can be obtained with any test ester.

In most cases, my recommendation is to stick with enanthate since it is the least expensive per mg of test. If you're only doing a short cycle, want the test out of your system fast, have a high tolerance for pain, and don't mind daily injections, then test prop is the best choice.

I totally agree with you. But if you made a poll more then half the people replying would say Prop bloats them less. I'm not saying this is for sure true, just stating a possible reason.