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Test + Cypionate Stack

virtue_ag

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Hey guys

I may get flamed for this, but I've made my decision and I want to try this out.

I'm 22, 190 lbs, 13% bodyfat, been lifting since 15.

I've been plateauing the past year or so, even with a proper diet for the past 3 months counting all macronutrients and weighing all my food.

I've tried drop-sets, supersets, full body workouts, four day splits, and 3 day splits -- all in two-month spurts to see what gains i could manage. So far my gains have been nominal, or stayed the same.

Tried creatine, after workout + before bed, and tried a different cycle of just before workout cuz my old school buddy does that.

Tried hot rox, no xplode, lean mass gainers, redline, and nothing seems to affect my body.

Oh, I also tried Methyl-drol, and I think that actually made me LOSE weight =P

So a friend suggested I try Deca + Test Cypionate for 80 days. He said to inject them both every 4 days, and choose different muscles for each injection so the area doesnt get 'crunchy'. He also gave me a 15G needle to 'pull the liquid out' and then switch out for the 22G. I have the bottles, but I want to do a lot of research before I do anything

The Deca is 200mg /ml , and Test is 250mg/ml. I also ordered 25 22G needles (prolly gonna need more), and planned on doing Clomid afterwards.

What are your opinions, guys? I don't mind being pointed to posts or sites that I shouldve checked first, like I said I'm a true newb. I'm most likely gonna stick to what he gave me (cuz I already paid him), but what do u think of the stack, the injection advice he gave me, and what else should i get or watch out for?

Also, someone on another forum said i should be taking anti-estrogens on the cycle. I'd like to do the safest thing possible, but I'm also on a budget -- how risky is it not to take anti-es with the deca/ test ?

Thanks!
 
First time .. start with just test. see how ur body responds.. Deca will shut u down , u"ll need some HCG for recovery.. Just do a test 500wk for 8 weeks followed up by clomid pct .. keep it simple ur first time .. (make sure u get some nolvadex on hand incase u get gyno)
 
I agree with only using one compound to start off with. Although, I'd stretch it out to 10-12 weeks because you won't start seeing results until after the 4th or 5th week.
Just like you've done in the past, you have to experiment to see what works for you. If you throw in 2 things at once, you won't know which one is making you grow or which one is causing problems.
Not everyone uses ai's during a cycle. If you have a problem with bp or gyno, I'd definitely suggest using it.
There is a pct forum on this board. Read up on that before you start your cycle.
 
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