Test base with var?

[Joe Stenson]

Ok, going to be running some Orbit var, probably 100mg/day for about 12 weeks. Just wondering which option you think I should go with:

A) 100mg var ed only
B) 100mg var ed + 250mg enth/week
C) 100mg var ed + 250mg enth/5 days

Now I know some of you are thinking it's a pretty stupid question because obviously the one with the higher amount of test seems like the best option. What I'm weighing out is the fact that I plan on using no anti e's for this cycle (I'll have nolva on hand, but I'm pretty sure such low/no doses of test I'll be fine) vs. the extra gains from more gear. Clearly option A is the safest, C the most risky but with the potential for the best gains, and B is somewhere in the middle.

At this point in time I'm leaning towards option B. I would then just use a single vial of test and end it a couple weeks before the var. (Given that I don't like having extra test laying around between cycles 'cuz it only tempts me, I'd probably do a little frontload if I went with option C just to make sure I didn't have any left at the end ) This would a) let the enth clear a bit before PCT and b) let me get rid of any water I may be holding as I plan to go on vacation in week 12 and clearly want to look as good as I can. Thoughts?

 

[alltraps]

what do you want out of this cycle

 

[Joe Stenson]

I'm cutting.

So, let's say muscle and strength preservation (clearly I'll actually gain strength with that much var so that's not a huge issue), and if I threw a little lean mass on by "accident" I certainly wouldn't complain.

 

[Guvna]

C

 

[Joe Stenson]

C

Any reasoning besides the obvious?

 

[alltraps]

always use test as a base for every cycle

 

[Guvna]

Any reasoning besides the obvious?

nope.

 

[Joe Stenson]

always use test as a base for every cycle

Well let's talk about sides then. Last cycle I was sitting at around 750-850mg test/week and using 0.5mg a-dex eod, which was sufficient. Perhaps I was holding a little water, but as far as acne/hair loss/puffy nips go I was fine (which is really all I care about). I'm just trying to play around with how high I can go with no anti e's at all before I have any problems.

And as far as the options I laid out, I'm basically 100% certain that B wouldn't be a problem, but C might start pushing it.

 

[Joe Stenson]

nope.

haha didn't think so...just another greedy guy like myself. Trust me, I'd like to run a gram of enth/week with that var, but I'm trying to keep it sensible .

 

[alltraps]

Well let's talk about sides then. Last cycle I was sitting at around 750-850mg test/week and using 0.5mg a-dex eod, which was sufficient. Perhaps I was holding a little water, but as far as acne/hair loss/puffy nips go I was fine (which is really all I care about). I'm just trying to play around with how high I can go with no anti e's at all before I have any problems.

And as far as the options I laid out, I'm basically 100% certain that B wouldn't be a problem, but C might start pushing it.

u have done 850mg of test a week and you;re affraid of 250 every 5 days??

 

[Joe Stenson]

u have done 850mg of test a week and you;re affraid of 250 every 5 days??

I guess I'm trying to be on the cautious side here.

Put it this way though. 250 every 5 days is 350 week + 700 var/week and I'm over a gram of gear. Yes, var is weak, but it's not like sides from it are non-existent. In addition, a-dex is fairly powerful stuff, so the addition of that 0.5mg eod in the last cycle means more than you'd think on the surface.

Yeah I know, just trying to justify myself. Option C it is .

 

[alltraps]

I guess I'm trying to be on the cautious side here.

Put it this way though. 250 every 5 days is 350 week + 700 var/week and I'm over a gram of gear. Yes, var is weak, but it's not like sides from it are non-existent. In addition, a-dex is fairly powerful stuff, so the addition of that 0.5mg eod in the last cycle means more than you'd think on the surface.

Yeah I know, just trying to justify myself. Option C it is .

i assure you, you will not get any sides from var, even at that dose, so no worries there.

 

[Joe Stenson]

i assure you, you will not get any sides from var, even at that dose, so no worries there.

Well, that puts me a little more at ease. I was always under the impression that although it's probably the safest drug out there, it still has the potential for sides.

Thanks for the help.

 

[TheRide]

C - but why 100mg/var ??? Your liver is going to hate you.

 

[LVTitan]

i would go with option c if you are going to go with the test...
UNLESS............

option b you would take 2 shots a week at 125mg each, then i would go with that for your cautious use of test. i dont like waiting a week between enth shots, i used to do it, but 2 week keeps me more stable, i can tell cause i start to break out if i wait a whole week between shots. even blood levels keeps my skin clearer

 

[Guvna]

i would go with option c if you are going to go with the test...
UNLESS............

option b you would take 2 shots a week at 125mg each, then i would go with that for your cautious use of test. i dont like waiting a week between enth shots, i used to do it, but 2 week keeps me more stable, i can tell cause i start to break out if i wait a whole week between shots. even blood levels keeps my skin clearer

I agree. A week is too long for enth shots..

 

[alltraps]

C - but why 100mg/var ??? Your liver is going to hate you.

thats not true at all. 100mg of var is a joke for the liver to handle. its not like comparing 100mg dbol or anadrol. different beast

 

[Joe Stenson]

thats not true at all. 100mg of var is a joke for the liver to handle. its not like comparing 100mg dbol or anadrol. different beast

Agreed. In any event, all the talk about gear's stress on the liver is exagerated. It's not like I'm running orals year round, while pounding back a 6-pack every day. If my liver can't handle var for 12 weeks I'm in trouble as is.

Btw, I'm going with option C. Wish me luck!