Test. Atrophy: what to expect..?

[usc2001]

I am about to start, but wanted to ask the board about atrophy: how much is normal, how much is something to be concerned about, and when is it likely to begin/and for how long?

when i hit the HCG will the atrophy be reversed for a while?


i am planning on taking it mid and near-end of cycle as many have suggested...i want to avoid atrophy if i can



my 1st cycle: test e 250 e4d for 10 wks

what other sides should i be wary of?


this is the advice i was given regarding atrophy avoidance:

I use 500ius midcycle for 10 to 14 days...
If I am doing a ten weeker with longer esters I use hcg at wk 5 and 10 at 500ius/day for 10 days. I use 20mgs of nolva at the same time...

what do you guys think?

 

[littleb]

i would just play it by ear, or by feel i should say, if the boys shrink up on you pretty bad, then yes run hcg mid cycle or so, which you could probably get away with just 500iu evey couple days for 10 to 14 days. thats what i just did a couple weeks back and worked like a charm. just take 20mg nolva ed while you are running the hcg.
as for use at end of cycle, read jenitics sticky in pct forum, that is what i am going to run, only i am adding in clomid as well as nolva..

on a side note, some bros dont need hcg mid cycle everybody is different, but might as well have enough on hand.

 

[Ross]

You don't want atrophied testicles than either don't use steroids or use something more mild. HCG should restore some testicular size, but it will do nothing for funtion--it is purely cosmetic.

I have only experienced very slight atrophy while on higher dosages of anavar. Tribulus does WONDERS for both, teste size AND function. Eurycoma Longfolia(tongkat) will do the same, albeit through different mechanisms. Get some.

And for the record--I don't advocate the use of test.

 

[usc2001]

i would just play it by ear, or by feel i should say, if the boys shrink up on you pretty bad, then yes run hcg mid cycle or so, which you could probably get away with just 500iu evey couple days for 10 to 14 days. thats what i just did a couple weeks back and worked like a charm. just take 20mg nolva ed while you are running the hcg.
as for use at end of cycle, read jenitics sticky in pct forum, that is what i am going to run, only i am adding in clomid as well as nolva..

on a side note, some bros dont need hcg mid cycle everybody is different, but might as well have enough on hand.

Thanks!

How did you know to use 500 every couple of days for 10 days? How did you know that anmount would work for you?

what about the 500iu twice a week throughout the cycle protocol? (quoted below)

take it at 250-500iu 2x weekly all the way through the cycle, that way testicular atrophy does not happen in the first place. That is the most effective way to take it, especially if you run long cycles. basically your two options are, let your nuts die, then after months of them being DOA, try to bring them back from the dead....or two, keep them alive throughout your cycle

 

[littleb]

Thanks!

How did you know to use 500 every couple of days for 10 days? How did you know that anmount would work for you?

what about the 500iu twice a week throughout the cycle protocol? (quoted below)

i didnt know it would work, just take 500iu every couple until size is restored, thats how long it took me give or take, as for using throughout cycle, i personally dont see a need to with a light cycle, you may not even exp. that much shrinkage, every one varies..

 

[usc2001]

thanks

slightly off topic, but if this is a "light" cycle, do you think there is a good chance of gyno?

im very lean, and never have had any flab/resemblance of man-boobs...

will test e cause this and how do i react if so?

 

[Ross]

thanks

slightly off topic, but if this is a "light" cycle, do you think there is a good chance of gyno?

im very lean, and never have had any flab/resemblance of man-boobs...

will test e cause this and how do i react if so?

Statistically speaking, USING TEST E, you have a fairly good chance of getting gyno--50/50.

Those are risks I am unwilling to take, and depending on your goals, you may not want to take them either.

Make sure to have Arimidex on hand, or just Nolva if bloating and other estro sides don't bother you..(?)

If you would like some different cycle ideas, Email me.

 

[usc2001]

You don't want atrophied testicles ...

use something more mild.

And for the record--I don't advocate the use of test.

OK--

help me out here..

what would you recommend?

WHat do you determine as "mild" and "harsh"?

What is wrong with Test E?

thanks

usc

 

[Ross]

OK--

help me out here..

what would you recommend?

WHat do you determine as "mild" and "harsh"?

What is wrong with Test E?

thanks

usc

Testosterone is Highly ANDROGENIC and ESTROGENIC which makes it HARSH on the HPTA.

Compounds like Primobolan, Oxandrolone, EQ, and Oral-Turinabol are both--LOW androgenic and NON-estrogenic, which makes them light on the HPTA. (Boldenon converts to estro EVER so slightly.)

As I said, just Email: [email protected]

We will work out your details....Diet/Cycle/Training regimen.