test and sust. question

[Brad102]

Hi,

still trying to design my proper 1st cycle...
I'm rather looking for a bulking cycle and I just don't put on weight, so I'm not really concerned with getting fat.

I was wondering if I should use test. cyp. instead of sust. since I've read so many mixed and contradictory advice on sust.

Or should I stack the two ?

Also, I seem to have understood that winstrol is good for cutting but can be done without if that is not a concern. true ?

BTW, I'm in Paris, anybody from this area (or France) here ?

thanx for your advice

 

[polar707]

i've actually heard a lot of good stuff about sust, and I've seen what it has done for others. For a first cycle i would recommend 250-500 mg sust/week. good luck.

Polar707

 

[2Thick]

You can use cyp instead of sust with good results.

Using winny in a bulking cycle will add a little hardness and vascularity but won't make a huge difference.

 

[serge]

use cyp, faster acting

 

[juice17]

use sust

go with sustenon for your first cycle bro...500mgs/week for 8 weeks add some nice mass to a first time user. also, you wont have to worry about the water bloat or gyno as much as you would with cyp or eth. good luck

juice17

 

[The Iron Game]

avoid sust for later, more advanced cycles.

just my 0.2

 

[juice17]

why avoid sust

why avoid sust for later IRon Game? im also doing sustanon at 500mgs/week for 8 weeks for my first cycle. is there something wrong with using sust in your first cycle?

 

[polar707]

sust

yes, why avoid sust?? Sust is a very commonly used newbie cycle, and it always produces great results.

Polar707

 

[The Iron Game]

Re: sust

yes, why avoid sust?? Sust is a very commonly used newbie cycle,
Polar707

you tell me why it is used so commonly in a newbie cycle and I will tell you why to avoid it

 

[Brad102]

geez... all this is sooooooo confusing. I'll have to count the votes to make up my mind.
But I guess basically it all comes down to the same thing : work out + diet + any kind of test

 

[juice17]

well ive read that it is a safer test than cyp/eth. it aromitizes less and gives less of a water bloat. i dont see why it should be avoided but you arent a mod for nothing so please share your wisdom with us.

 

[brianharper94]

Definitely sust. It is the best thing there is. If you want to put something with it, don't put any other test with it. Tren, nandrolone, boldenone, but not test. I'd do 250mg of sust for 10 weeks if it was me. At first you want to go very low on dosage and just do a longer cycle, this way you won't overwhelm your body and will still gain 20-25 lbs. easily.

 

[The Iron Game]

Please tell me why sustanon is safer than any other form of test, or what is so unique that causes it to aromatise less or be any safer than any other form of esterified test?

Do a search for the Sustanon vs Enanthate thread or all the other threads stating my feelings and views as well as many others on why sustanon is not the best for a newbie. At the end of the day test is test but the mix of the esters in sust has little to be desired.

Peace