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Test and deca

jayson311

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I have heard alot of people on here say that test is great first cycle. Was wondering if the gains for just test on the first cycle would be much less than the gains on a test/dec 1st cycle. Of course this is assuming same person, same diet and same workout.
 
Get all you can the first round because after that they will never be the same..Run both low for sides then up as you like..... enjoy
 
Ozz2001 said:
Get all you can the first round because after that they will never be the same..Run both low for sides then up as you like..... enjoy

in reality you would want to run a "low" dose of JUST test - say 250mg/week for a first cycle to see how your body responds to AAS. For a first time user, the gains are typically very impressive on the test-only cycle.

Then, if you want to do another cycle at a later time, you can slowly bump the test up (mg/week) - and/or add another compound to it.

This is how "every" first timer should run their first cycle.

If you throw two compounds at them on their first run, how will they know what they could have gained off the test alone?
 
I agree with itln. Run the test only first to see how you react to it. Deca makes me restless and jacks with my BP. If you don't react well to the test, you're probably not going to want to run the deca IMHO.
 
in reality you would want to run a "low" dose of JUST test - say 250mg/week for a first cycle to see how your body responds to AAS. For a first time user, the gains are typically very impressive on the test-only cycle.

No, in reality this is how most people WASTE their first cycle. You can only do your first cycle once and this is the one you stand the best chance of explosive growth. So you want to use the highest doses you can safely use.
The first cycle should be 750mg/wk or more.

The test only cycle is a cautious way to go and it does allow you to see how you respond to one steroid. If you use two and have problems you won't know which one is causing them. However, MOST people don't have a problem with either deca or test. So mixing those two for a first cycle is common practice. I would run 500mg/wk of test and 300mg/wk of deca if you're going to do that.
 
Well then - I'm done giving out advice here.................
 
itlnstln said:
in reality you would want to run a "low" dose of JUST test - say 250mg/week for a first cycle to see how your body responds to AAS. For a first time user, the gains are typically very impressive on the test-only cycle.

Then, if you want to do another cycle at a later time, you can slowly bump the test up (mg/week) - and/or add another compound to it.

This is how "every" first timer should run their first cycle.

If you throw two compounds at them on their first run, how will they know what they could have gained off the test alone?


I agree.
 
galaxy said:

yeah - if you think about it, why would you want to give a newbie (who probably just wants to add a few lbs of muscle) a complex cycle?

I thought we were looking out for these "young-guns"

The theory that "you only get one chance to do your first cycle" would only really apply to someone who is looking to do MANY future cycles, and truly wants to be a BodyBuilder.

i'm going to say that would only apply to about 3% of first time posters here.
 
I would suggest a first cycle of 500mg test/wk. It's enough to get explosive results, but still low enough to be very safe for most people. I would run a low dose of anti-e with that to prevent bloat /gyno and to get the leanest results possible. For a second cycle, I'd suggest at most 500mg test and 400mg deca. Better to add one compound at a time so you can learn how each compound works and clearly see what effect it has on your body.
 
Fuck test, got Deca?

Go with either at 400 a week....add one oral for 6 weeks (dbol at 30mg ED is good) That was my first, put on 30 lbs
 
bigrand said:
Fuck test, got Deca?

Go with either at 400 a week....add one oral for 6 weeks (dbol at 30mg ED is good) That was my first, put on 30 lbs


Your firs was Deca and Dbol? LOL

When you lost all the water - what were you left with - 1lb?

deca and Dbol????? - BLOOOOAAAAAAT
 
i actually kept 20 of it, and it was test and dbol. I dont bloat off deca.

Dude, deca and dbol is like the fuckin classic stack!
 
bigrand said:
i actually kept 20 of it, and it was test and dbol. I dont bloat off deca.

Dude, deca and dbol is like the fuckin classic stack!


Yeah so is no PCT
 
galaxy said:
Your that guy from that mtv show arent you?LOL


LMFAO!


:FRlol:
 
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