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the 2 oral thing is blown way out of proportion, will it affect your liver values sure....would it be better if you didnt sure....will your liver fall out your ass when you take a shit no, i have ran 2 orals a few times and although i had elevated liver values they werent shockingly bad....would i do it a long ass time, no...whatever you do goodluck and take your liver supps.
Little Boy
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Why are so many people afraid of needles?
Whoever does oral only cycles has no business doing juice. Period.
Whoever does oral only cycles has no business doing juice. Period.
Little Boy said:
im not afraid of needles in any way shape or form, chist when i go to the doc i ask him what gauage hes using and make sure he aspirates and all that fun stuff coming just short of saying 'i can do it myself thanks"....my response said nothing about notusing injectables, bro asked a question and i answered it.... instead of not contributing and being negative just dont post, pretty easy....
indy69camaro said:Dude, you need to go Platinum, I like your attitude
getting there, as you can see from my join date i first did alot of reading and taking in of info then when i felt like i could help (which was recently) with what i have tried and what not i decided to post more...plat membership is coming soon....im getting murdered this month lol
daughter turns 1 dec 21st
mother of my daughters b day is also the 21st
x mas of course the 25th
crazy crazy.....
DieselGunz
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Indy is deff a good dude
Little Boy
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boops said:
I never said that you were afraid of needles. I wasn't responding to your post, I think your reading comprehension was mixed up momentarily.
no my reading comprehension was just fine, your original post said "Whoever does oral only cycles has no business doing juice. Period" well sorry to inform ya but my first cycle was winstrol only (injectable taken orally) and based on the fact you know nothing about me or anyone else to make the assumption if we are or arent ready is pretty dumb....but thats my opinion, what do i know about myself (nothing i guessLittle Boy said:
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Throw2Far said:
lol i just hate when people answer things and have no basis to do so, all of my answers come from things i have tried myself on myself...first hand evidence so to speak.....so to have someone suggest i wasnt ready for juice because i did an oral only cycle gets to me some when they dont know anything about me....ok im done lol....
Joe Stenson
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indy69camaro said:
To add to what boops said (about liver toxicity being blown out of proportion) it's going to be no worse for you to take 1 oral, 2 orals, or 8 orals, if the total dosage is still the same.
Little Boy
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boops said:no my reading comprehension was just fine, your original post said "Whoever does oral only cycles has no business doing juice. Period" well sorry to inform ya but my first cycle was winstrol only (injectable taken orally) and based on the fact you know nothing about me or anyone else to make the assumption if we are or arent ready is pretty dumb....but thats my opinion, what do i know about myself (nothing i guess
Yes...a winstrol only cycle is not good. That's correct.
Anavar is actually used to treat liver damage for those once addicted to alcohol/drugs. One could make an argument that the steroid itself does not negatively affect the liver even when the liver already has significant damage to it. It is given to patients at up to 80 mg a day and to young girls even to treat Turner's Syndrome. It is still a 17 alpha alkylated drug like T-Bol, but I dunno alot of these studies seem to claim it is not as destructive to the liver as some think. There are a ton of schollary article's you can find on google reguarding the presribing of var for patients with cirrosis and to those with HIV for long periods of time.
sigmund
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boops said:
I agree, in particular Var is much less likely to impact liver enzymes:
From research conducted by Michael Mooney that this is particularly well noted with HIV patients who have been using Oxandrin, another brand name for oxandrolone. Anavar is much less liver toxic than other 17-alpha alkylated steroids, this is because it is primarily metabolized outside of the liver, when metabolized, and much of it is excreted unchanged. However at higher doses (40mg +) it can increase liver enzyme values but there is no evidence that any cytotoxicity exists, as is the case with other 17-alpha alkylated steroids.
Although in time it can screw your cholesterol levels.
