tbol question

[hanibal]

what can it be compared to? it was recommended that i kick start my next cycle w/ 50mg/day. here's what im thinking:
wk1-6 50mg/day tbol
wk3-13 100mg EOD prop
wk3-11 75mg EOD tren ace
wk7-13 50mg/day var
wk10-16 200-400mg/wk mastabol
wk8-16 proviron
wk1-16 .5mg/day arimadex
t3 wk 3-7 and 12-15
clen starting at wk 7 through pct(not sure ED, 2 on 2 off, or 2weeks 2 off)
clomid and arima PCT
obviously this is a cutting cycle. never tried tbol or knew anyone who did other than on EF. 31 6' 230 now about 16% BF. starting 4/15. many cycles under belt. last 2 years only 1 or 2 a year. my diet is clean and am not looking to do anything that will promote water retention. is tbol known for this?

 

[steelmass]

Compared to Anavar. I like it more though. Some call it a dry DBol.

 

[mendo]

Tbol is great if you don't want water retention. Its good in a cutter and it has basically no sides at all. I've heard it described as Dbol without the bloat. Some compare it to var and winny. I think its better than all of those if you don't want sides. Good luck, looks like a good cycle.

 

[hanibal]

how toxic is it? i'm not a fan of orals but this cycle involves a few. i will also be using tylers and glucorellr.

 

[INNOCENT]

i would start the tren/test at wk 1 not at wk 3 but thats my opinion. yeah, tbol is like dbol without bloat. but i compare it to more like var.

 

[mendo]

It has never effected my liver values all that much. I would describe it as mild as orals go. It can put a slight strain on your kidneys, so keep your water intake up and take some cranberry extract.

 

[hanibal]

if it is like dbol w/out bloat is it going to promote alot of weight gain. i'm really not trying to get much more size, just rip up.

 

[letsrun4it]

Anyone running tren probably shouldn't be worried about t-bol sides

 

[mendo]

if it is like dbol w/out bloat is it going to promote alot of weight gain. i'm really not trying to get much more size, just rip up.

Not on a calorie restricted diet. It will help you keep your mass and maybe harden you a bit. You'll get a good pump without adding much if any weight if your dieting.

 

[loik4]

it didn't do anything for me.
Anavar is much better.

 

[steelmass]

How much did you take? Alot of people are fans of running 50mg ED for 21 days. I wouldn't run it w/o Test though, can't see myself gaining when i've already taken such high levels of other AAS. For beginners it could be perfect though, 50mg ED would cause keepable gains.

 

[hanibal]

Anyone running tren probably shouldn't be worried about t-bol sides

no shit, tren is toxic enough. that's why i'm not looking to run something else toxic. why is running tbol in beginning recommended to kick start. same reason dbol is?