Tbol only cycle and PCT

[Dkimyo]

hey guys, I am new here and please do not bash me for doing oral only cycle.. I just want to see what steroid is like before I begin a real cycle!

I will def add test into my next cycle(and thats for sure)and the next cycle would probably be my last cycle as well haha.

I have a couple questions tho,

I've been reading A LOT of reviews for tbol and I've seen many people running Nolva for PCT over Clomid.(and some doing both)

From my research tbol barely converts to estrogen and therefore there should be minimal estrogen related sides so there is no need to run pct with nolva, however tbol DOES shut down your natural test and therefore it would be necessary to use clomid for pct.

am I correct? if so, why are so many people using Nolva only for pct?
as far as I can see, only thing that I should be worried about running Tbol looks like the shutdown and losing the gains.


Also I had milk thistle for my liver protection in my mind but some people claims that milk thistle do mess with receptor and therefore reduced effects from steroid so I should use different liver protection, is this correct too?

I was planning on running 5 weeks of tbol 50mg-60mg/ED.
Should I reduce the duration(4 weeks) and increase the dosage to 60 or
stick to my plan(5 weeks).

Please correct me and I am willing to learn new stuffs.

Thanks

 

[Chibi]

Do more research and come back. Next time post your stats too.
More research and posting stats is the only way you're going to get help.

 

[Dkimyo]

Do more research and come back. Next time post your stats too.
More research and posting stats is the only way you're going to get help.

I think I've done enough research on tbol only cycle, its just there are so many conflicts in peoples opinion

I am 5'9" and 182lbs 15%ish bf.

been training for a few years on and off.

 

[25homes]

Bro if you gonna do it do it right run test with it you will regret down road...I wish I would have ran my first cycle right the gains can be unreal

 

[dylangemelli]

your fine to run a tbol only cycle but you have so many other misconceptions its ridiculous... i don't have time to address it all... just know you absolutely need protection with a methylated oral but just protecting the liver is not even close to enough... you need n2guard for FULL protection... what about blood pressure, lipids, cholesterol? I HIGHLY recommend adding sarms to this cycle, especially since you are not running test... it will fully enhance your cycle and you will get the most out of it... you most certainly need a full pct and i just don't know where your getting your horrible info but i will simply lay out an entire cycle for you...

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1-6 tbol 60 mg day
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pct 13-16

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com

aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com

n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators




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[Dkimyo]

thank you. I will read thru everything. this is what i needed. kinda hard to get 'legit' info around cause everyone says differently.

so far ive found clomid is way too much for tbol only and oral only cycle for such a short term I dont really need to worry about recovery however 'rebound' can cause gyno so I need small dose of nolva for pct. is this correct? thank you for the links and i will study them all.

 

[Dkimyo]

There's nothing more to be said.


There is no reason for you to be on the fence and debate whether or not to cycle Turinabol alone.

Hypothetically, you gain 8-10lbs of lean mass in a matter of say, four weeks? Within two/three weeks after your four week cycle, everything you had gained (in this case 8-10lbs) will be lost. All for what?

Secondly, orals are not a stepping stone nor an introduction to anabolic steroid use. They are a secondary, not a primary, they merely amplify and kickstart a proper cycle. Without the base, without the fundamental compound (testosterone) a secondary compound including orals have no room within a cycle.

Imagine trying to drive a vehicle on rims (orals) without any tyres (testosterone) - it is simply not feasible.
You will wreck havov on your body.

When playing chemistry with the human body, you have very little to no room for error.

alright, i got it. and yea I've decided to run test E with tbol at 500mg each week.

with tbol 50mg ED/week for 5 weeks
and test E 500mg/week for 10 weeks

how should my pct look like?

Clomid and Nolvadex both needed?

I've seen people running Amidex but I also so other people saying its such a mild cycle so Amidex is not really necessary?

Can you clarify this? Thanks.