Tax Solution

[Sushi X]

since many of us can't agree on what our taxes should be used for how about the government send out a form for you to fill out stating where you would want your taxes to go. here's the way i see it:

liberals:welfare, government programs, abortions, anti gun lobbyists, anti tobacco lobbyist, the aclu and 3rd world countries.

conservatives: military, social security, roads, bridges, increased law enforcement, education, the econonmy.

now come all libs and conservatives. bring it on. let me know where you want yours to go, let me know what you think of the idea. let's turn this thing into a good ol fashion sling fest. ryanh, if you are going to participate you are to answer questions asked and not run around them like clinton and the other libs do. noone will think any less of you for answering, in fact i will think more of you for doing so. now let's do this!!!

 

[strongchick]

I think you forget that liberals might spend the money on alternative fuel sources so that wars are less necessary and the economy less dependent on energy supply factors, therefore lessening the need for money on the military and the economy.

No need for corporate bailouts for businesses that depend on oil.

hmmm.

 

[Sushi X]

let's leave the research to the universities and the private sector, i want my tax money to strenghten the military and even cut taxes so that i have money to spend and put into the economy. that's more logical than waisting money on engines that run on electricity or water. that get's expensive. let's just all drive nuclear powered cars, that's a clean source of fuel or natural gas.

next...

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

I want my tax money spent on national defense and infrastructure.

That's it.

 

[smallmovesal]

you forgot the arts for the liberals too.

otherwise, i'm staying out of this slingfest thanks.

 

[spentagn]

I think you forget that liberals might spend the money on alternative fuel sources so that wars are less necessary and the economy less dependent on energy supply factors, therefore lessening the need for money on the military and the economy.

No need for corporate bailouts for businesses that depend on oil.

hmmm.

What about the businesses that own alternative fuel technology? Won't those surely become part of the evil big business empire?

You're right about the bailouts, though. If you tax businesses so much they can't afford to operate, there will be no businesses to fail.

 

[Sushi X]

good point spentagn.

 

[Y_lifter]

Are your referring to Federal, State, Local taxes or ALL of them?

 

[the nature boy]

You're right about the bailouts, though. If you tax businesses so much they can't afford to operate, there will be no businesses to fail.

so you're telling me that big businesses don't have the ability to play with their money to aviod paying huge taxes? I could be wrong. Somehow I don't think taxation is the cause for all businesses going under.

 

[the nature boy]

P.S. Since when were the conservatieves the only ones who gave a damn about education? And social security? Do the conservatives not have their own lobbyists too? What ever happened to being objective?

 

[needleboy]

I think you forget that liberals might spend the money on alternative fuel sources so that wars are less necessary and the economy less dependent on energy supply factors, therefore lessening the need for money on the military and the economy.

No need for corporate bailouts for businesses that depend on oil.

hmmm.

So before the world became dependant on oil, there was no war, and no need for a millitary??

You are so misguided it's sad. War a has to do with aggression and dominance. Japan was trying to take over the world, as was Germany, France, England, The Roman Empire etc, not trying to control the world oil supply. Although controlling the world oil supply would give you dominance.

Liberals do like to spend my money(MY MONEY, NOT THEIRS) for their pet projects, and that pisses me off!

 

[the nature boy]

before we get into any tax and spend BS, tell me when in recent history we've had SIGNIFICANT tax cuts? Don't tell me dubya's $300 dollar tax cut was significant. It was more costly than anything. In Virginia, we elected some clown Gillmore, who's whole platform was to abolish the car tax. He won. Many years later, I'm still paying a fucking car tax. Even if they abolished it, they'd have to come up with the money from somewhere.

 

[Sushi X]

i never said they were'nt concerned about education they just don't show it much. mostly they care about political correctness in schools and eliminating the socio-economic competition thus creating a communistic school system. they'd rather spend money on helping teens abort unwanted babies or some lazy schmuck who won't work have money he did'nt earn. quit spendind money on bs programs that do nothing for this country and use it to rebuild roads, clean up highways, higer high quality teachers and raise teachers salaries, not the politicians(any of them). use it to add more law enforcment and upgrade public hospitals. let's do something to better this country not bring it down. i'm all for a tax cut or better yet a flat tax(10% for example) that way i have money to spend and put into the economy and the government has less of it to spend so they will be forced to use it wisely and not just give it to whoever.

as for being objective, when i see a liberal do it i will aslo. fair is fair ya know.

 

[the nature boy]

i never said they were'nt concerned about education they just don't show it much. mostly they care about political correctness in schools and eliminating the socio-economic competition thus creating a communistic school system. they'd rather spend money on helping teens abort unwanted babies or some lazy schmuck who won't work have money he did'nt earn. quit spendind money on bs programs that do nothing for this country and use it to rebuild roads, clean up highways, higer high quality teachers and raise teachers salaries, not the politicians(any of them). use it to add more law enforcment and upgrade public hospitals. let's do something to better this country not bring it down. i'm all for a tax cut or better yet a flat tax(10% for example) that way i have money to spend and put into the economy and the government has less of it to spend so they will be forced to use it wisely and not just give it to whoever.

as for being objective, when i see a liberal do it i will aslo. fair is fair ya know.

I'm not liberal, I'm libertarian. And I call it both ways. As for education spending, where are your stats as to who spends more? You are mearly speculating without any facts or numbers. As for the BS programs, I'm in total agreement.

As for the flat tax, that movement was started in the republican party, but that very same party were the ones that laughed it off.

 

[Sushi X]

i consider myself libertarian as well but i also lean to the right as well. i guess i'm a conservative libertarian. the speculation things is based on what i see libs doing in the news daily. but to humor everyone it's fair i use it as it is all libs use too. so like i said fair is fair.

i'm still for some sort of tax relief. mabye cut my taxes since i make under 15k a year right now. i see no reason for me to pay 27% when i am under the poverty line. it's funny, people see me as a "poor man" and probably wonder how i can't be liberal.

 

[strongchick]

So before the world became dependant on oil, there was no war, and no need for a millitary??

You are so misguided it's sad. War a has to do with aggression and dominance. Japan was trying to take over the world, as was Germany, France, England, The Roman Empire etc, not trying to control the world oil supply. Although controlling the world oil supply would give you dominance.

Liberals do like to spend my money(MY MONEY, NOT THEIRS) for their pet projects, and that pisses me off!

I said 'wars are less necessary', not 'no war'.

And spending money on companies that wouldn't survive on their own is good use of money? United Airlines sucked before 911, and still sucks. They have not re-hired those they laid off, and how in hell is a business not able to even sustain itself for a month during an economic downturn?

 

[Warik]

"conservatives: military, social security, roads, bridges, increased law enforcement, education, the econonmy. "

Nah.

I'd only be interested in "giving" to the military and the economy. I don't believe in Social Security. I feel law enforcement today is inefficient despite "everyone" providing for it. Public education is a joke and always will be, and although roads will be in top shape, they will still have stupid drivers.

Military and the economy for me folks... that's the only thing ANYONE should be taxed on anyway.

-Warik