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taking slin to the gym..

flyin j

flyin j

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Im gonna take my slin to the gym tomorrow night and im gonna keep it in a thermos to keep it cool.

My question is since it will be out of the fridge for about an hour and forty five minutes will this be dangerous for it??? Will it ruin it???
 
flyin j said:
Im gonna take my slin to the gym tomorrow night and im gonna keep it in a thermos to keep it cool.

My question is since it will be out of the fridge for about an hour and forty five minutes will this be dangerous for it??? Will it ruin it???
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You should check the vial. It should state what temp it's best at. Unless you're in the deep south though it's pretty cold all across the USA so it might even be better in your car. You can pin it in the parking lot after training. It's more discrete, you're not exposing yoruself to the sewers that are most gym locker rooms, and you can follow up with simple carbs at your leisure. I only say this because one time I pinned my slin in the locker room pwo (I dont do this anymore) and then headed over to the juice bar for a shake, but the dimwitted blonde working there had to go to the supply room to get a new tub of protein to make my shake and she must have given a few bj's while she was back there because it took her so long I almost passed out.

Anyway, that's my take on it. I never was too keen on pinning in public. Ya just never know who's watching...plus it's dirty as fuck...

To answer your question though, I can't speak for slin, but for something like it, a peptide, IGF-1. I read studies that tested the potency of IGF-1 at -30 C, 0 C, and room temp. The potency was just as good at room temp (after many months stored at this temp) that it was in the colder environments. I know slin and IGF are not the same, but they're both fragile peptides, and should have similar stability properties. The rule of thumb for peptides (slin, IGF, GH, MGF) seems to be as long as you keep it out of intense heat/sunlight you're good to go.
 
my girl friend is diabetic, and she never refigerates her shit, (unless its an unopened vial). so shell have a 100iu vials at room temp for over a week, and it still works fine. shes a type 1 too, so shed know if it was ruined, because her pancreas secretes NO insulin
 
you don't have to keep it in a thermos. thats not necessary. keep it in the fridge and then just take your preloaded syringe with you to the gym...no problem.
 
52_21_30 said:
You pin IGF and slin together pwo??
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as a general rule you do not take insulin with anything that acts similarly to insulin, like igf
however since liquidmuscle and i first talked about insulin over 4 years ago you have to assume he has some xperience with this.
an example of thier use together might be to start at 1 iu of both and work your way up not to exceed 10 iu total of both compounds , i just dont know. however i would not think this would be good unless you have used both seperately many times.
this is not for the beginner or journeyman juicer.
since i have very big reservations about the longterm safety of igf, i have not used it and dont plan to. so therefore i can only postulate on its use
what you say liquid? some insight on thier combined use?
 
This is slightly OT, but I was going throught my library of training vids and came across an oldy from Nasser. There's a scene where he finishes a workout and it flashes to him coming out of the shower in the locker room with a little black bag and he yells at Mits (Mitsuru Okabe) because he told him not to shoot the vid in the locker room. I wonder what was in his little black bag. Lol...

BTW, he had just previously downed a whole tray of papaya...
 
Thanks ACNEMAN for the backup, I dont mix them together, they are/were in separate syringes. Currently I am only using igf but on my last cycle i used humalog and igf pwo for 3 wks and followed up with normal protocol for carb/protein consumption. I was impressed to say the least. Matter of fact I have 2 more igf kits and another slin vial as well :evil:
 
liquidmuscle said:
Thanks ACNEMAN for the backup, I dont mix them together, they are/were in separate syringes. Currently I am only using igf but on my last cycle i used humalog and igf pwo for 3 wks and followed up with normal protocol for carb/protein consumption. I was impressed to say the least. Matter of fact I have 2 more igf kits and another slin vial as well :evil:
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Sounds good. I'm not against using them together if you're experienced, I've just always alternated 4 weeks IGF, 4 weeks slin so that I'm always ON something. Seems to have worked well so far. Isn't it true that if you're accustomed to say 10 IU of humalog, if you add IGF to it, then you'll only need 5-7 IU humalog due to increased insulin sensitivity from the IGF?
 
acneman said:
as a general rule you do not take insulin with anything that acts similarly to insulin, like igf
however since liquidmuscle and i first talked about insulin over 4 years ago you have to assume he has some xperience with this.
an example of thier use together might be to start at 1 iu of both and work your way up not to exceed 10 iu total of both compounds , i just dont know. however i would not think this would be good unless you have used both seperately many times.
this is not for the beginner or journeyman juicer.
since i have very big reservations about the longterm safety of igf, i have not used it and dont plan to. so therefore i can only postulate on its use
what you say liquid? some insight on thier combined use?
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taking insulin with IGF increases IGF's halflife, so taking the 2 together might actually be a good idea
 
52_21_30 said:
Sounds good. I'm not against using them together if you're experienced, I've just always alternated 4 weeks IGF, 4 weeks slin so that I'm always ON something. Seems to have worked well so far. Isn't it true that if you're accustomed to say 10 IU of humalog, if you add IGF to it, then you'll only need 5-7 IU humalog due to increased insulin sensitivity from the IGF?
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i would aproach a combo use like it was the first time i used slin...cautiously
i cant recomend dosages but i would be careful. start low and work up carefully
liquidmuscle said:
Thanks ACNEMAN for the backup, I dont mix them together, they are/were in separate syringes. Currently I am only using igf but on my last cycle i used humalog and igf pwo for 3 wks and followed up with normal protocol for carb/protein consumption. I was impressed to say the least. Matter of fact I have 2 more igf kits and another slin vial as well :evil:
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what do your dosages look like and how did you arive at the amounts?

ricorico said:
taking insulin with IGF increases IGF's halflife, so taking the 2 together might actually be a good idea
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i havent heard that. intresting.
 
Scenario: train hard, take slin, consume 16 oz of grape juice w/ creatine-head out on your 25 minute drive home where more sugary shit awaits. Bad luck-you get a flat, cell phone is dead, and the closest phone is 15 mins away. You search through your spare tire shit-no jack. Only option you have is to flag someone down or hoof it. You try to stop random cars but since you look like a cretinous freak nobody stops to help. Time has gone by and you start to get dizzy cuz you're body is running out of quick acting carbs. You decide to hoof it to the nearest phone-getting dizzier by the minute. You pass out on the side of road and die from insulin shock. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. My point? Never leave the house without a lb or so of candy or glucotabs in your possession in case of emergencies. With insulin you can't fuck around-you might not get a 2nd chance.
 
52_21_30 said:
Sounds good. I'm not against using them together if you're experienced, I've just always alternated 4 weeks IGF, 4 weeks slin so that I'm always ON something. Seems to have worked well so far. Isn't it true that if you're accustomed to say 10 IU of humalog, if you add IGF to it, then you'll only need 5-7 IU humalog due to increased insulin sensitivity from the IGF?
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I take both slin and igf pwo. no problems...10iu of each. I didn't notice much difference between slin only and slin with igf though. I dont take high dosages of igf though, like many do...only 25mcg, not 100mcg like some do, so that may be why it didn't make much difference.
 
BigCracker said:
Scenario: train hard, take slin, consume 16 oz of grape juice w/ creatine-head out on your 25 minute drive home where more sugary shit awaits. Bad luck-you get a flat, cell phone is dead, and the closest phone is 15 mins away. You search through your spare tire shit-no jack. Only option you have is to flag someone down or hoof it. You try to stop random cars but since you look like a cretinous freak nobody stops to help. Time has gone by and you start to get dizzy cuz you're body is running out of quick acting carbs. You decide to hoof it to the nearest phone-getting dizzier by the minute. You pass out on the side of road and die from insulin shock. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. My point? Never leave the house without a lb or so of candy or glucotabs in your possession in case of emergencies. With insulin you can't fuck around-you might not get a 2nd chance.
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follow instructions and take all needed carbs and protien and creatine at time of shot or no shot...period.
also keep clucotabs.. absolutly.

acneman said:
Insulin safety



1. Do not use slin alone have a training partner or girlfriend who's not using slin hang around with you from the time you take the slin to about 2.5/4 hrs after.

2. Tell you're partner to look for anything out of the norm for your personality and have a list of questions like your ssn or address etc that they can ask you. Don't joke around, and answer them without shit, because if you cant answer or refuse to answer it could be a sign of hypoglycemia(low blood sugar). Symptoms of hypoglycemia include disorientation, headache, drowsiness, weakness, dizziness, fast heartbeat, sweating, tremor, and nausea.

3. If you cant/wont answer or are feeling the symptoms of hypoglycemia they should be prepared to feed you carbs like pancake syrup, coke, sugary stuff. I bought glucose tablets at walmart. kinda like candy but gets in the blood faster and dissolve quickly. these are for diabetics ask at the pharmacy.

4. Have your partner know that if they suspect low blood sugar and cant convince or force you to consume carbs until your better. CALL 911 and ask for an ambulance and tell the truth to the operator... that they suspect you are in insulin shock and explain when they get there(the ambulance guys not the cops) that you are not diabetic but using insulin for anabolic purposes. Have the type of slin, the dosage and carbs consumed recorded to give the paramedic. They will save your life. Then you refuse transport to the hospital and eat. It might be a good idea to make sure your house is "clean" before every workout just in case the bad thing happens and the cops ask a lot of questions.

5. Why so much preparation for the possible problem?? insulin can kill you in minutes if you go down!!

6. Take the carbs and protein together immediately after injecting the slin(dont take chances trying to time out 15 min after injection). Take the protein with the carbs because the protein is pushed into the muscles with the slin also(creatine too).

7. Before an hour passes you should eat a normal balanced meal(high protein low fat with carbs).

8. Consume another small high protein medium carb low fat meal at 2.5 hours after the injection. Congrats you lived.(keep some gatoraid on hand just to make sure because your not gonna have a lifeline)

9. YAWN... Don't go to sleep within 4/6 hours of using insulin since you can develop hypoglycemia while asleep and not have warning signs.
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It will be fine. Ive never refridgerated my slin in my life. Jintropin peeps even say that leaving there hgh out for up to 30 days is okay and we get people sweating it over a extra day of shipping or two.
 
52_21_30 said:
Sounds good. I'm not against using them together if you're experienced, I've just always alternated 4 weeks IGF, 4 weeks slin so that I'm always ON something. Seems to have worked well so far.
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This is the way I do it, alternating between the 2.
 
slin...its a dangerous drug and I personally fear it...imo when you fear something you respect it and slin needs to be respected..hell anything that can kill you needs to be respected :evil:
 
Man a gym is full of MRSA and VRE and fungus and all kinds of bugs...I seriously wouldnt think about pinning there...
 
dude all the homies at golds are always shooting slin...i need to do more research...being in my early 20's i dont wanna touch it for a while but i would live to later...if you lift the lid of the trash can at golds here in venice you always see insulin needles....lol
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
dude all the homies at golds are always shooting slin...i need to do more research...being in my early 20's i dont wanna touch it for a while but i would live to later...if you lift the lid of the trash can at golds here in venice you always see insulin needles....lol
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Insulin shouldnt really be used until you start to stagnate with a healthy amount of gear.
 
flyin j said:
Im gonna take my slin to the gym tomorrow night and im gonna keep it in a thermos to keep it cool.

My question is since it will be out of the fridge for about an hour and forty five minutes will this be dangerous for it??? Will it ruin it???
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I just read the insert to my novolog and it says novolog can be in temps less than 86 deg F for up to 28 days. So it will definitely be ok to take to the gym without a cooler :)
 
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