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T4 & Clen

chgolatin2

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Would like some help on how to properly use T4? :rolleyes: Thinking about running Clen & T4 cycle for cutting purpose.

Thanks!


Latin
 
chgolatin2 said:
Would like some help on how to properly use T4? :rolleyes: Thinking about running Clen & T4 cycle for cutting purpose.

Thanks!


Latin
You're gonna lose muscle if you dont use AAS along with t3.
 
yomama said:
You're gonna lose muscle if you dont use AAS along with t3.
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Bet you forgot to read his post before answering.. :)

It's T4 not T3.

T4 chglatin2 is not the best for cutting.

Clen increases body temperature via the beta-2 adrenoreceptor, and increased peripheral T4-T3 conversion.

By adding T4, you will increase blood levels of T4. But this doesn't mean that more T4 will now be converted to T3, Actually the conversion of T4-T3 is a lot smaller than taking T3 by itself. Remember that T4 is 4 times less potent than T3(The actual number is between 4 and 5 but Ihaven't found a specific study for the exact related potency). Therefore 25mcgs T3 = 100mcgs T4. So, to sum it up, your endogeneous thyroid production will be suppressed, and you will have a smaller amount of T3 in your bloodstream, than if you took straight T3.

If you still want to run Clen with T4, do this:

Clen (60-100mcgs depending on your Bodyweight) is suffuciently strong enough to off-set the catabolic effects of 25mcgs T3. So, in T4 terms...100mcgs/day.

So, run Clen at 60-100mcgs/day + 100mcgs T4/day for about 2 weeks. Yourtemp will then go down due to downregulation of the T4-T3 conversion process(This does not happen with T3). What you can do is add 10g L-Taurine/day with your protein shakes. This amino acid(very cheap..500g $15 or less) will cause cell voluminazation and extend your Clen/T4 cycle 1 maybe 2 weeks, but no more.

Any more than 25mcgs T3 or 100mcgs T4 would require the use of AAS.
 
chgolatin2 said:
Would like some help on how to properly use T4? :rolleyes: Thinking about running Clen & T4 cycle for cutting purpose.

Thanks!


Latin

Don't run T4, run T3. T4 has to be converted to T3. It's like taking andro instead of test. And you need to use AAS while employing thyroid hormones in your cycle since T3 will eat tissue, be it muscle or fat.
 
could you use T4 and just use 4 times the dose that you normally would use for T3? I have an abundant supply. I realize T3 is better but precursors obviously convert to other sustances it just depends on how well they convert.
 
dr0832 said:
could you use T4 and just use 4 times the dose that you normally would use for T3? I have an abundant supply. I realize T3 is better but precursors obviously convert to other sustances it just depends on how well they convert.
No, you can't. Having more T4 in your system will not increase the conversion to T3 at all, so you will just wind up with a shitload of T4 floating around your bloodstream until it's cleared. Once your body determines it doesn't need to convert any more T4 (meaning when your T3 levels are normal, not high), it won't matter how much T4 you throw at it.
 
ohashi said:
No, you can't. Having more T4 in your system will not increase the conversion to T3 at all, so you will just wind up with a shitload of T4 floating around your bloodstream until it's cleared. Once your body determines it doesn't need to convert any more T4 (meaning when your T3 levels are normal, not high), it won't matter how much T4 you throw at it.

That's right. Just get some T3. It's cheap and easy to get.
 
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