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rpol

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Mods I know this is more a chemistry question, but does anyone know about synokits the link I had no longer works, could someone pm or e-mail me a link. Also if there are no estrogen strippers out there anyone know how to make test suspension out of base is it just bacteriostatic water like winny??
 
rpol said:
Mods I know this is more a chemistry question, but does anyone know about synokits the link I had no longer works, could someone pm or e-mail me a link. Also if there are no estrogen strippers out there anyone know how to make test suspension out of base is it just bacteriostatic water like winny??

synovex H conversion for TP /no estro

items needed
1 Bottle of HEET
5 Carts -10 grams of Synovex H
1 vial estrogen soluabilizer
1,000-1,200 mls of Distilled Water
Large bowl that will hold about 1500 mls.

Dissolve syno carts in the HEET.
Coffee filter the residue and rinse the binders with 20 mls more HEET.
Add the filtered syno/methanol to the large bowl
Add the vial of soluabilizer
Allow to sit one hour and stir often
Slowly add 3-4 times the amount of methanol used-IN THE FORM OF DISTILLED WATER 1,000-1,200 MLS OF DI WATER TO THE METHANOL SYNO ESTRO SOLUTIOUN VERY SLOWLY-the solutions will cloud and turn milky white-this is the TP preciping out of the water.
Cover and place in the refigerator.

Filter the crystals the next day through coffee filters and
Rinse the wet powder with distilled water 3-4 times.
Place wet powder in the oven at 200 degrees F and leave the door open the powder should dry in4-5 hours.

It yields aboput 95 % or 9.5 grams of TP.

Use a 10 gram powder conversion to convert to 100mg/ml 95ml.

Your welcome.
 
The Shadow said:
As a chemist...you do NOT want to mess with Synovex

Read an article from someone who made it and still got gyno even after preparing it correctly. Possibly didnt rinse it well enough =/
 
The Shadow said:
As a chemist...you do NOT want to mess with Synovex

Is the estrogen problem that bad??? or is there other problems, impurites etc.
Don't want boobs or abcesses
 
Synoves is just plain old test prop plus estrogen

just get test prop


Methanol is flammable as well as a carcinogen as it will slip thru the blood brain barrier



LOL

its just insane to go theu that effort when you can get prop
 
Methanol is not used in the final process - it is only used to dissolve the pellets. I don't think too much would make it ot the end - would it?
 
3nigma said:
Methanol is not used in the final process - it is only used to dissolve the pellets. I don't think too much would make it ot the end - would it?


Depends on how its dried...


oh yeah - its also flammable.....
 
3nigma said:
Methanol is not used in the final process - it is only used to dissolve the pellets. I don't think too much would make it ot the end - would it?
'Not very much" is a relative term bro, ya know? "Not very much" LSD makes me a completely different person, and many have died from "not very much" cyanide, so to say that theres 'not very much' really doesnt amount to... well.... 'very much.'
Bionic
 
Well, for the final process in the conversion, the test powder has to be completely dried... wouldn't this help ensure that the methanol is gone? Methanol evaporates very quickly. I'm no chemist - just curious??
 
3nigma said:
Well, for the final process in the conversion, the test powder has to be completely dried... wouldn't this help ensure that the methanol is gone? Methanol evaporates very quickly. I'm no chemist - just curious??

ITS FLAMMABLE



YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DRY THE POWDER AT 200 DEGREES


LOL
 
I heard one time that a guy actually got gyno from using testosterone that wasn't from a conversion. But, it was just the one person that experienced this.

Then, one time, there was this other guy who never got gyno from synovex conversions, and all he did was follow instructions and take the right precautions. But, again, it was only just one guy.

A person has to do what is right for them. Lots of possibillities, lots of unique situations and individual experiences. Hard to say what may be right for anyone but myself. I, personally, get a bad feeling every time I even think about trying clen., which many people have no problems taking. But, I take that as a sign and I stay away from it.


Jacob
 
3nigma said:
exactly my point shadow - thats why I didn't think any would be left in the final process.


BUT.....why would you put something flammable in the oven??

..and if you dont, then it probably wont get completely dried.


so.....


Fire


Brain tumor
 
i never got the whole synovex thing seems like too much effort to get some prop
i dont think i'd wanna shoot anything in me that i have to prepare with drygas
seems like there is too much room for error when making it
 
tattoofever said:
i never got the whole synovex thing seems like too much effort to get some prop
i dont think i'd wanna shoot anything in me that i have to prepare with drygas
seems like there is too much room for error when making it



FINALLY!!!!


LOL
 
Lots of people have done the conversions with no problems. Its not like these underground labs or 3rd world countries making ASS are completely safe. There are plenty of guys that get gyno from non syno ASS.
 
Demonix said:
Lots of people have done the conversions with no problems. Its not like these underground labs or 3rd world countries making ASS are completely safe. There are plenty of guys that get gyno from non syno ASS.



LOLOL


natural test -> estrogen conversion is normal



trying to wring out estrogen with a flammable solvent that isnt ulta pure is just idiotic
 
The heet isn't used to remove the estrogen - it is used to break down the pellets.

You sure you are a chemist???
 
Demonix said:
The heet isn't used to remove the estrogen - it is used to break down the pellets.

You sure you are a chemist???


To get really pure crystals, just enough methanol is added to each crop of crystals so that all the crystals are dissolved. Water is added drop wise to these solutions until crystals form, just as we did previously. The crystals are harvested, and melting points are taken. It usually only takes a few simple recrystallizations to get a really pure product. The yield will vary each time you try this, but I recommend just doing one cart at a time, until you get the hang of it.



^^^From a popular website....



water is then added.


Methanol and water are miscible, so once they are crystalized and then wahsed...there is water and methanol left behind...you then are told to squeeze(wring) the excess and then bake off.....



that is what is meant by wring in this instance



and you are "sure" this process is easier/cheaper/safer than popping a flipoff top??
 
Shadow - won't washing the powder in water (2 gallons) remove the methanol? If that doesn't, won't completely drying the powder either in an oven or in the open air evaporate the methanol? I'm very curious about this, having seen the conversion performed 3 times. If the final product is completely dried, won't the methanol be evaporated, given methanol's evaporation point?
 
Damn shadow - I just tried to give you karma on this BTW, but I messed up my messge. It should have said "thanks for your help on this!!"
 
Hey Shadow/Bionic - I have been looking into this a bit (I've done the conversion a few times and the Methanol thing scared me). I can't find any evidence to suggest that Methanol is a carcinogen. Even the EPA lists it as non-cancerous. They do say that it is toxic in appreciable concentrations, but not a small doeses, and in fact the body actually produces methanol. Can you clarify this for me?
 
caution should be used when making the conversion. methanol's flash point is above 50*F. i and many others have performed this conversion many times without incident, but like all things in life, mistakes can happen. However, methanol evaporates VERY easily when exposed to air, even when it is already dissolved in water. the miniscule amount of methanol present in the powder when it is placed in the oven at a relatively low warming temp (around 200*F) would not be enough to blow up your oven. if a spark did happen in your oven, say from the element burning out, an ignition may occur, but most likely you would be left with a small mess to clean up inside your oven. as far as toxicity it is somewhat debated. large amounts consumed orally can affect the nervous system and also lead to blindness. the lowest reported lethal dose in a human occured at 428 mg/kg-1, which is a fairly high saturation compared to what is used for our conversion. very minor amounts of methanol are readily broken down in the human body and disposed of thru expired air and urine. it is listed as an irritant and a narcotic. it is not a confirmed carcinogen. i have heard several reports of gyno as a result of home brewed prop, however i have yet to experience this. hope this little bit of info helps you make a more informed decision :)
 
I didn't even read all the posts on this... I read the opener, scrolled to here...

seven years ago my Rancher buddy bought me 100 carts, maybe 200. I got the kit, fucked up one batch, then pissed away another ten carts, and finally tossed the shit and got geared up with a source. Who has the patience to mix, cook, strain through filters, wait?

NOT ME, MAN!
 
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