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Sustanon, Deca, and Winny?? Anyone??

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I am in need of some expert advice. I am a first time steroid user. I am 22 years old, 5'10 and 180lbs. I am only about 5 percent bf, so that isn't a concern for me. I am mostly concerned with keeping the greatest amount of quality muscle after the cycle is over. I was planning on using the following components in a 12 week cycle, and was hoping someone could give me some imput. Thanks alot...

Week 1-12 500mg sustanon(or a mixture of 400mg enanthate, 100mg propionate
Week 1-6 300 mg. nandralone decanoate
Week 6-12 200 mg. nandralone decanoate
Week 6-16 50 mg winstrol every other day

Also Nolvadex as an anti-estrogen 20 mg every day starting at the beginning of week 3 and continuing as post cycle therapy. (I don't have access to clomid anyways), and HCG 4 times @ 2500 IU per injection. Aslo clenbuterol starting on the day after the injection. Please let me know if I can change anything for better results or even use another substance.
 
Welcome, it looks like you have done your homework. Nothing sticks out as bad just a few opinions as it pertains to my experience. I would run the Nandralone at 300 all the way through, if your trying to stretch a bottle out just end it sooner. Ten weeks of winny is a long time, I would keep it to 6 maybe 8. regaurdless run your liver protectants.

But more important than anything get your bloodwork done and make sure your healthy to begin with. Also winny jacks your lipid profile pretty bad so the aged garlic tabs and good efa are in order, eating clean helps too. good luck
 
oops, the winny was a typo.... it should read:
Week 6-12 Winstrol 50mg every other day

Would it be better to up the dosage of Deca? Not trying to skimp out ( I have 9000 mg.). I do however want my risk/benifit ratio stacked in my favor
 
Oh, and thanks alot for the advice
 
Oh so your a 12 week cycle, ok. Now things are getting a little more interesting. The deca is gonna stick around for 3 weeks min after your last injection. So those 3 weeks before you start recovery are gonna be so-so. Personally I would run 6 weeks of the winny and stradle the last injection date 3 weeks before and 3 weeks after. That way your still making some gains and taking advantage of the stack then almost immediatly on to recovery.

300 deca is fine, go with it. I would do a small front load of it on the first injection, maybe make it 600 then normal 300 on out. This way you get the blood level going a little sooner...

Good luck..
 
Would it be a good idea than to just stoop the deca 3 weeks early? (week 1-9 300 mg nandralone except 600 mg on week 1) I could do that, but the testosterone decanoate (in the sust) would stick around for a while as well. Hmm... I'm not so sure anymore.
 
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