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Sustanon and HCG....

swordfish151

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is hcg ABSOLUTLEY necessary if only taking 250mgs a wk...meaning one shot every sunday? trying to get my PCT started (set up)
 
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Depends of if you'r nut shrinks or not.. it's allways better to be on the safe side.. meaning, if you'r sensetive to sust or whatever it doesent matter how much you take e/w or eod.. how does YOU'r body react
 
No, its not necessary. I've used only clomid post sust. cycles and been very happy with gainskeeping. Remember that the sust. takes about 3 weeks after your last shot to clear so don't start pct too early. With such a low dose you could probably use nothing and be fine, but clomid would be safe. Unless you have issues with clomid, I never have but alot of guys have posted probs. Then consider nolv. or nothing. I don't think hcg is worth the trouble in your case.
 
idcbp said:
No, its not necessary. I've used only clomid post sust. cycles and been very happy with gainskeeping. Remember that the sust. takes about 3 weeks after your last shot to clear so don't start pct too early. With such a low dose you could probably use nothing and be fine, but clomid would be safe. Unless you have issues with clomid, I never have but alot of guys have posted probs. Then consider nolv. or nothing. I don't think hcg is worth the trouble in your case.

hmm good input, im not looking at taking clomid, more like Nolva...
 
As long as he shuts down he's own production of test, it would be on the safe side to use PCT.. tho clomid might cause worse side's then the sust alone..
 
wls8687 said:
As long as he shuts down he's own production of test, it would be on the safe side to use PCT.. tho clomid might cause worse side's then the sust alone..

im only considering Nolva as PCT
 
yeah, but nolva causes some emotional problems in some inviduals too.. what do you think you'rself? you wanna use nolva/hcg ?
 
wls8687 said:
yeah, but nolva causes some emotional problems in some inviduals too.. what do you think you'rself? you wanna use nolva/hcg ?

well i was recommended HCG and Nolva, no clomid....for this cycle, its my first one...but when i thought about it, i started to think why would the HCG be needed if it was such a low dose, compared to others that take higher doses..i dont have a problem taking it, just wondering if its necessary?
 
That's funny, i'm starting my first cycle in 2 weeks, it will be 250mgs of omna e/w, so were in the same boat hehe.. i spent much time thinking about just pct for sutch a mild cycle.. thinking of it's the first time we juice our body would recover quicker afterwards, and nolva and clomid would cause more sides then the AAS, like acne and so on.. i think i'm going to recover without any nolva or hcg or whatever, like they did oldschool.. but hey that's just me.. i think you would be fine with just common low dosages of nolva after the cycle is done.. you want to know how much you should take e/w and so on?
 
wls8687 said:
That's funny, i'm starting my first cycle in 2 weeks, it will be 250mgs of omna e/w, so were in the same boat hehe.. i spent much time thinking about just pct for sutch a mild cycle.. thinking of it's the first time we juice our body would recover quicker afterwards, and nolva and clomid would cause more sides then the AAS, like acne and so on.. i think i'm going to recover without any nolva or hcg or whatever, like they did oldschool.. but hey that's just me.. i think you would be fine with just common low dosages of nolva after the cycle is done.. you want to know how much you should take e/w and so on?

why are you choosing OMNA for your first cycle? just curiouse...most bros on here will say to do TEST first..why omna? yeah I would like to know how much nolva?
 
I'm haveing a hard time to find real aas in sweden, and omna are not very often faked.. i like the combination of the tests.. it will produce more solid gains tho to the combination of esters and not as much of sides..at least i hope:) use nolva as this:
Day 1-14 40mg
Day 15-30 20mg
If you feel any gyno, use 40e/d till it disappers and then 20-10 ed til the cycle is done.
 
wls8687 said:
I'm haveing a hard time to find real aas in sweden, and omna are not very often faked.. i like the combination of the tests.. it will produce more solid gains tho to the combination of esters and not as much of sides..at least i hope:) use nolva as this:
Day 1-14 40mg
Day 15-30 20mg
If you feel any gyno, use 40e/d till it disappers and then 20-10 ed til the cycle is done.
first off, omna has been widely faked. second omna IS test. someone asked why you would take omna instead of test. omna is sustanon.

also, how long are you planning on running this cycle. 250mg/week is not a lot, but if it's like 10 weeks or longer i would do hcg for after your last shot for a week or 2 until u start your nolva. length of cycle is as important in figuring out pct as is the amount of gear per week.
 
LVTitan said:
first off, omna has been widely faked. second omna IS test. someone asked why you would take omna instead of test. omna is sustanon.

also, how long are you planning on running this cycle. 250mg/week is not a lot, but if it's like 10 weeks or longer i would do hcg for after your last shot for a week or 2 until u start your nolva. length of cycle is as important in figuring out pct as is the amount of gear per week.

lol..i was the idiot that asked that question..but now i know! Im going to be running 250mgs of sust a wk for 10 wks!
 
what's the meaning of producing fake Omnadren when it costs allmost nothing to produce and to buy? as long as he's own test production is shut down, does it matter if it's 8 or 10 weeks? yes omna is TEST, but most ppl advice's you to use test enth or so.
 
wls8687 said:
what's the meaning of producing fake Omnadren when it costs allmost nothing to produce and to buy? as long as he's own test production is shut down, does it matter if it's 8 or 10 weeks? yes omna is TEST, but most ppl advice's you to use test enth or so.

oh so i wasnt totally ignorant..lol..
 
no, of course not... it's all up to you, tho i consider using hcg for that cycle is unecesarry... just use nolva for pct.. but hey that's just my 2 0,02
 
wls8687 said:
no, of course not... it's all up to you, tho i consider using hcg for that cycle is unecesarry... just use nolva for pct.. but hey that's just my 2 0,02

I think i might just try that!
 
Everyone responds differently to gear. I need to run HCG in order to recover and maintain a fair portion of the gains.....even on 250mg EW Sust for 10 weeks. Feel your boys.....if they are smaller than usual (which often is the case) you will want the HCG to jump start them. No sense in waiting for natural recovery and losing your hard earned gains. Don't need to go overboard either.....500IU's 3X EW for a couple of weeks (2-3 no more) should be plenty. Clomid is not necessary with the low doses but I would opt for Nolvadex at 20mg ED for 4+ weeks. The goal of PCT is to proactively promote your body's natural test production and decrease your predisposition for muscle and strength loss. IMHO the key ingredient to this is HCG. Good luck!
 
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