sust/tren/dbol cycle

[kb2324]

hey guys im starting a sust tren dbol cycle in about 3 weeks and i needed some suggestions/.
1-10 sust at 750/mg il be injecting M/W/F
1-8 tren enanthate 450mg
the dbols il be running from week 1-4 at 50mg
I was thinking about throwing some winny in at week 6 or 8 or anavar (have not used either) just to lean out right before the summer. I have clen and t3 on hand as well but i dont wanna cut that much.
I also have arimidex on hand which i will be running throughout since i am prone to gyno, and what are your guys opinions on HCG should i run it throughout or when should i throw it in. I have enough gear on hand(clomid as well) so any help would be greatly appreciated.
As for stats this is my fourth cycle, first time using sust (have used test e and t400 in all others) and im currently 255lbs at about 14% body fat. Open to all suggestions... thanks guys!

 

[stevesmi]

looks like you did your research here. tren E esthers take a week, sustanon takes 3 weeks. so you will have time to up your HCG during that time while the sustanon is clearing.. so up your hcg at your last sustanon shot for that 3 weeks. then i like to run HMG a couple doses, then you run your SERM

i am gonna run a masteron/tren ace/test cycle myself. might want to look at that thread, i listed my PCT in detail and how i was running hcg.

 

[ALIN]

hey guys im starting a sust tren dbol cycle in about 3 weeks and i needed some suggestions/.
1-10 sust at 750/mg il be injecting M/W/F
1-8 tren enanthate 450mg
the dbols il be running from week 1-4 at 50mg
I was thinking about throwing some winny in at week 6 or 8 or anavar (have not used either) just to lean out right before the summer. I have clen and t3 on hand as well but i dont wanna cut that much.
I also have arimidex on hand which i will be running throughout since i am prone to gyno, and what are your guys opinions on HCG should i run it throughout or when should i throw it in. I have enough gear on hand(clomid as well) so any help would be greatly appreciated.
As for stats this is my fourth cycle, first time using sust (have used test e and t400 in all others) and im currently 255lbs at about 14% body fat. Open to all suggestions... thanks guys!

If you choose something at the end to harden up on,,I would
use the WINSTROL. I like HCG during the cycle..500 iu every
5days.

 

[kb2324]

thanks for the replys guys. Stevesmi i took a look at ur thread looks like a good cycle bro. I did test 400 and tren acetate for my last one, sucks injecting everyother day tho with the acetate. Alin: i wanna throw the winstrol in at the end as well, especially since i wanna give it a shot. Do u guys prefer oral or injectable winny?

And as for HCG stevesmi i will probably throw it in as week 3 as well, u think 500iu's a week would be good until i finish the sustanon and then up it from there? Or run 500iu's 21 days past the sust and from then up my dosage on my hcg? As for the SERM (nolva) and clomid il begin 21 days after the last test shot? Thanks for the input guys

 

[stevesmi]

500iu is plenty during cycle. even 250iu is good enough for this.

last shot of sust up it to 1000-1500iu per week. that is solid. then I like to run HMG for a couple doses. and yes run a low dose SERM once the esthers clear after you run the hcg. i like to run 25mg ED clomid. heck even 12.5mg ED is good enough, very simple. people that complain about clomid symptoms run too high a dose IMO

 

[kb2324]

1-10 sust 750mg
1-8 tren e 450mg
3-10 HCG 250iu's every 3 days, after last sust shot 1000 ius for 2 weeeks
week 13 start the clomid for 4weeks 50mg or 25 mg first two weeks then 25mg last two week
and Nolva for 40mg first 2 weeks and 20 mg last two weeks.
anything i need to change?

And as for the winstrol im thinking throw it in at week 6 and run it for four weeks just not sure if i wana do another oral, rather do the injectable winny

 

[stevesmi]

maybe consider adding some HMG between the hcg and SERM. only because its tren you are running and the esthers will be in your body almost 10 weeks, that is a long tren cycle. throw the kitchen sink at your PCT here. and stretch out the SERM for 8-10 weeks total, low dose. winny or mast are great stacks with tren, i've heard too many bad things about winny though so make sure you read up on it.

and PS with the sustanon. you can inject the 750mg once a week, you don't have to inject it 3X a week. you actually keep your levels more stable injecting it as it was intended believe it or not which is once a week. people think they wont get the benefit of the prop, but they forget that it has 4 esthers which pick up after each other. i've run it both ways and once a week was definately superior for me. just food for thought.

 

[kb2324]

Thanks alot stevesmi. I guess il try getting my hands on some HMG, and yeah ive also read alot of bad stuff on winny as well. I have weak joints as is so im still not sure about it. I still have masteron laying around from before as well tho so i can go either way with that. When do u think would be best to throw the masteron in or should i just run it from the start

 

[kb2324]

another quick question as well, ive read some stuff about throwing the arimidex too early and screwing up your gains. For my previous cycle i ran it from the beginning at .5mg EOD , i just wanted a opinion on this since i am prone to gyno and i think its best if i run it from the beginning. And i just came across a thread(didnt know this b4) that you should run about 25mcg ed of t3 while on tren since it leads to supressed T3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^up to you when to run masteron. i am running cabaser with the tren, that should take care of the gyno problem for me. but in your case if you are suspectible to it then you may want to not mess with tren at all. depends on if you want to take that chance. as for T3, I have zero desire to mess with anything that messes with my thryoid.