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sust eod and diet ?

jimmy04

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ok i was gonna start a sust 250mg eod 12week cycle maby a bit of dbol 4weeks. this is a bulker of cours. the only thing is, is that me n the mrs are goin on holiday in september and i wanted to diet for it, maby last 6 weeks of the cycle. i have clen on the way and eca. would i be best to run clen 2 weeks on 2weeks off with eca inbetwean for the 12 weeks in hopes of droping some fat on the bulking fase or just smash the diet fase (last 6 weeks) with higher doses of clen n eca?
or 250mg sust weeks 1-7 then lower dose to 250mg 2x week for weeks 8-14 and run clen, eca in this 7 week slot?
thanx
 
jimmy04 said:
ok i was gonna start a sust 250mg eod 12week cycle maby a bit of dbol 4weeks. this is a bulker of cours. the only thing is, is that me n the mrs are goin on holiday in september and i wanted to diet for it, maby last 6 weeks of the cycle. i have clen on the way and eca. would i be best to run clen 2 weeks on 2weeks off with eca inbetwean for the 12 weeks in hopes of droping some fat on the bulking fase or just smash the diet fase (last 6 weeks) with higher doses of clen n eca?
or 250mg sust weeks 1-7 then lower dose to 250mg 2x week for weeks 8-14 and run clen, eca in this 7 week slot?
thanx

750/week is a lot of sust to expect to get lean on...I can tell you that right now from experience since I am running exactly that...I normally have a super fast metabolism but find it difficult to get rid of the bulky/watery look from this much sust...however strength gains are excellent, a necessary tradeoff - you simply cant have it all is the way I see it
 
+1. your gonna be bloated promoting fat and muscle gain. can you switch to test p and tren ace the last 6 weeks. run low dose test and moderate tren and hit the eca. clens shit
 
shit dude...that's a lot of sust!! As JayRock has stated...it's going to be a challenge to get lean off that program. From experience sust made me massive and did gain quality mass but also did get a pimp plump. and don't use clen dude...not worth it.
 
500mg of sus for the diet is what i will be taking not 750mg. test is test? so 500mg of test is not that much and still ok to diet onI would have thought im not doing a show just wana look ok on holiday. how much bloat can 500mg of sust cause with clean diet. I always read it is the diet not the gear you take on this site.
 
jimmy04 said:
500mg of sus for the diet is what i will be taking not 750mg. test is test? so 500mg of test is not that much and still ok to diet onI would have thought im not doing a show just wana look ok on holiday. how much bloat can 500mg of sust cause with clean diet. I always read it is the diet not the gear you take on this site.

I'm on 350, just upped to 500. Been on for about 4 weeks and no bloat but my diet is CLEAN. No sodium, no sugars, nothing that would cause bloat. I only have a cheat every two weeks, and so far iv managed to stay away.

I eat everything plain, so spices on my chicken, no soya for my brown rice, brocolli just like that, oats in the morning etc. If you want to put in spices I suppose use ones without sodium, and watch for other things that cause bloat.

-Eric
 
jimmy04 said:
ok i was gonna start a sust 250mg eod 12week cycle maby a bit of dbol 4weeks. this is a bulker of cours. the only thing is, is that me n the mrs are goin on holiday in september and i wanted to diet for it, maby last 6 weeks of the cycle. i have clen on the way and eca. would i be best to run clen 2 weeks on 2weeks off with eca inbetwean for the 12 weeks in hopes of droping some fat on the bulking fase or just smash the diet fase (last 6 weeks) with higher doses of clen n eca?
or 250mg sust weeks 1-7 then lower dose to 250mg 2x week for weeks 8-14 and run clen, eca in this 7 week slot?
thanx


regardless of what you use,,,DIET is critical,,,proper nutrition along with CLEN or ECA will strip BF% fast
 
jimmy04 said:
500mg of sus for the diet is what i will be taking not 750mg. test is test? so 500mg of test is not that much and still ok to diet onI would have thought im not doing a show just wana look ok on holiday. how much bloat can 500mg of sust cause with clean diet. I always read it is the diet not the gear you take on this site.


500mg can bloat ya good. not as bad if your eating perfect. but it still can
 
From 500 sust i have no bloat at all, but ive been eating clean and running tren and eq with it. Also been using an AI, which helps with bloat. It really all depends on the individual, ive never been one to bloat too badly, but imo its unnecessary to go over 500mg a week.
 
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