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Would test supsension work in oil as well as water?
Suspension In OIL?
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lionheart69
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Thanks Zyglamail, How soon does it get in and out of the blood compared to water, Is it the same?
serge
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"Nope. It get in blood much faster, almost twice faster, comparing to "real" suspension. Read Bill Roberts article on Esters, he explains it very well there.
Using test no ester in oil, you will need to inject, at least twice daily, or even more often for better results."
i dont think so, you tend to get "synthol effect" with suspension in oil, it fills up the injection site and just kinda stays there, the more often you inject the more imflamation is acheaved. i tried it 2 times per day and man it after about 2 weeks it really sucked, injection site was like a fucking baloon.
Using test no ester in oil, you will need to inject, at least twice daily, or even more often for better results."
i dont think so, you tend to get "synthol effect" with suspension in oil, it fills up the injection site and just kinda stays there, the more often you inject the more imflamation is acheaved. i tried it 2 times per day and man it after about 2 weeks it really sucked, injection site was like a fucking baloon.
"If testosterone itself is given in oil solution, it transfers too easily from oil to the water in the blood. The result is that an oil injection of testosterone gives a sudden spike in testosterone levels, which rapidly drops. Injections would be required at least twice per day, and perhaps even more often. Improving the oil solubility and decreasing the water solubility slows this transfer, and extends the half-life of the drug to several days or more."
by Bill Roberts.
Link to the whole article:
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/anabolic-steroid-esters.htm
Also, Serge. Testosteron no ester, will have poor oil solubility, so you will end up with partial solution, partial suspension, unless you do something to improve test's solubility, and then you will get pure solution. In water Testosteron has even worse solubility, so it's suspended. I know, you knew all that.
As for synthol effect, you are correct, but that's not the point. As long as some oil stays in depot, you can say, that test is still releasing into blood, but the point is, that VERY MOST of it will be released almost right away, and whatever left has no value for us.
by Bill Roberts.
Link to the whole article:
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/anabolic-steroid-esters.htm
Also, Serge. Testosteron no ester, will have poor oil solubility, so you will end up with partial solution, partial suspension, unless you do something to improve test's solubility, and then you will get pure solution. In water Testosteron has even worse solubility, so it's suspended. I know, you knew all that.
As for synthol effect, you are correct, but that's not the point. As long as some oil stays in depot, you can say, that test is still releasing into blood, but the point is, that VERY MOST of it will be released almost right away, and whatever left has no value for us.
serge
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"Also, Serge. Testosteron no ester, will have poor oil solubility, so you will end up with partial solution, partial suspension, unless you do something to improve test's solubility, and then you will get pure solution. In water Testosteron has even worse solubility, so it's suspended. I know, you knew all that. "
yeah, and that is EXACTLY what i said, i said it does NOT dissolve in oil hence you have a test suspension NOT a solution. i should know, i use the stuff all the time.
yeah, and that is EXACTLY what i said, i said it does NOT dissolve in oil hence you have a test suspension NOT a solution. i should know, i use the stuff all the time.
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OK, test no ester is test no ester whether it is dissolved in oil or suspended in water. Yes i said dissolved in oil! Test can easily be dissolved in oil with the addition of benzyl alcohol. And, convince me that it gets into your blood faster than suspension...... C'mon, think about it, you have a bolus of OIL vs a bolus of water with test particles. Water is easily and rapidly assimilated when injected into the body, oil however is not! Remember, oil is not water soluble and has to be broken down before the test becomes available . Twice a day injects with oil based test, I dobt it! I have done a lot of this stuff and think ed, eod, or even etd is fine depending on the injection amount. What do you guys think that big lump is that appears right after you inject three cc's of this stuff, and how long does it take to go away........
OK, test no ester is test no ester whether it is dissolved in oil or suspended in water. Yes i said dissolved in oil! Test can easily be dissolved in oil with the addition of benzyl alcohol. And, convince me that it gets into your blood faster than suspension...... C'mon, think about it, you have a bolus of OIL vs a bolus of water with test particles. Water is easily and rapidly assimilated when injected into the body, oil however is not! Remember, oil is not water soluble and has to be broken down before the test becomes available . Twice a day injects with oil based test, I dobt it! I have done a lot of this stuff and think ed, eod, or even etd is fine depending on the injection amount. What do you guys think that big lump is that appears right after you inject three cc's of this stuff, and how long does it take to go away........
Hugh Gellatts
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I'll sorta back Paneria on this one...it does hit very fast (you feel it in a little over an hour...I'd get spontanious wood, strong euphoric feeling and sometimes a bloody nose). I have not used water based suspension though, so for all I know they hit equally fast.
I did notice one thing with the no-ester gear...site injections (delts, bis, tris, calves) seemed to slow the release. Maybe this is because in the glute or quad the gear can dissipate much faster.
another odd thing about the oil based suspension was that I got gyno symptoms on as little as 400mg a week + .5mg armidex and 2 clomid a day. I strongly suspect that their was a mix-up and I got Mass Fuel (inj a-drol + test suspension). Whatever it was was very potent though.
I did notice one thing with the no-ester gear...site injections (delts, bis, tris, calves) seemed to slow the release. Maybe this is because in the glute or quad the gear can dissipate much faster.
another odd thing about the oil based suspension was that I got gyno symptoms on as little as 400mg a week + .5mg armidex and 2 clomid a day. I strongly suspect that their was a mix-up and I got Mass Fuel (inj a-drol + test suspension). Whatever it was was very potent though.
"Also, Serge. Testosteron no ester, will have poor oil solubility, so you will end up with partial solution, partial suspension, unless you do something to improve test's solubility, and then you will get pure solution. In water Testosteron has even worse solubility, so it's suspended. I know, you knew all that
if that was true then you would get barely any gains from doing synovex once a day and peopel do get good results from it
if that was true then you would get barely any gains from doing synovex once a day and peopel do get good results from it
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