supertest 450 ,dbol,anadrol,and deca

[twelvejewelz]

cycle is like this and im on week 2:
week 1-14 supertest450 630mg a week 2 shots MON315mg/THURS315mg
week 1-12 Deca Durabolin 400mg a week MON200mg/THURS200mg
week 1-4 dianabol 30mg ed 10mg 3 times a day
week 11-14 Anadrol50 75mg ed 25mg 3 times a day

-Now im Thinking of just adding in the anadrol now at 50mg a day along with the dbol and kick the dbol up to 6 weeks and take the anadrol for 4 weeks along with the dbol.This is my 6th cycle and last cycle i gained 35lbs on test cyp500mgweek, deca400mgweek and 50mgweek dbol. This is a mass cycle and im wanting that extra weight early on. I know its not good to do dbol and anadrol cause its hard on the liver but i have liv52 and milk thistle im taking 3 times a day. How does this sound? Also I have clomid, Nolvadex, HCG, and Arimidex but im scared to take the anadrol because i have no letro on hand incase i get gyno from the anadrol. I have no source for the letro so can i substitute it with the arimidex? Its not good to take the nolva with the deca i hear so i dont want to do that.Are there any other options?Thanks in advance!

 

[twelvejewelz]

Btw ive never had a gyno problem and i dont seem to be prone to it ive just never taken anadrol before and am worried since its such a strong oral if that matters?

 

[thelocal]

dont run those 2 orals at once not worth the liver toxicity

 

[stevesmi]

I would do the deca 10 weeks and test 12 weeks. so reduce by 2 weeks. you dont need 2 orals at the same time and dont need or want to do 6 weeks, complete overkill, your liver will thank you. but i cant disagree with taking 3 weeks off in between and then starting the oral again cause thats what i did on my current cycle.

your PCT is decent but it can be improved by adding unleashed and post cycle. also start hcgenerate week 9 and run it all the way into PCT. also it wouldn't hurt taking some formestane to block some of that estro/bloating

your cycle is very close to what i ran my first 2 cycles and got great results so you should do very well.

 

[twelvejewelz]

Thanks everyone. See i wanted to combine the drol and dbol at the lower doses after reading the article written by Gavin Kane.It makes sense that less sides for the lower doses but added effects as the 2 use different pathways. I like the idea and am going to run the drol for sure and dbol has always made me "feel" good so i figured it would counter act the "feeling" bad that i hear the drol does. Is the arimidex good for the gyno from the drol? I have always heard to take letro but i have no source and am just nervous since it will be the first time im taking the drol. The reason i like to run the deca longer is because i really start to feel it at week 10 and i figure that that will give me a good 2 extra weeks to be feeling amazing.Since im already going to be shutting down my system i may as well get as much as i can out of it i figure haha. Any other opinions would be greatly appreciated. Also im not sure if i can get formestane is there anything else?

 

[stevesmi]

any topical cream is good as an anti-estro.

i personally dont think its good to run deca too long cause it will be harder to rebound.. i like to do 2 cycles a year and take my recovery very seriously. time on=time off. but that is up to you. deca is one of those slow builder types, so its normal not to even notice it but trust me its doing its job in the end. my balls became raisins my first cycle using it and i learned my lesson about what suppression really is. so this time around i started taking formestane and hcgenerate and no raisin balls this time around.

 

[twelvejewelz]

I know what you mean about the balls. My balls are almost non existent when im on its absolutely ridiculous.This is the first time im going to be running HCG im thinking of starting it on week 4 because i dont want to have to deal with the shrinking anymore haha. Is it really that dangerous to run the nolva with deca?What are the actual side effects of running the nolva if gyno starts from the drol while im on the deca?I have the arimidex pills (ANASTROZOL 0.25 MG)not the topical but i guess i can order something topical like aromasin perhaps.Ill also look into the formestane but not worry about The HCGenerate since i already have 10,000 IU of organon pregnyl (HCG).Ill just cut the deca to 10 weeks then its fine but i am still going to run the test for a total of 14 weeks.Im still not sure what im going to do with the drol and dbol weather im going to take them at the same time or 4 weeks on 4 weeks off then 4 weeks on again. See i like the feeling of well being if thats what you wana call it on the dbol so mabe ill just run the drol with the dbol to counter act the bad feelings of the drol. Any more info or experience is always welcomed and appreciated!!!!thanks bros

 

[stevesmi]

cant answer that bro. i am running hcg as part of my PCT, not during my cycle.

i am on my 12th week of my sust/deca cycle and my balls are there. no raisins this time. the hcgenerate is helping

 

[twelvejewelz]

cant answer that bro. i am running hcg as part of my PCT, not during my cycle.

i am on my 12th week of my sust/deca cycle and my balls are there. no raisins this time. the hcgenerate is helping

i was under the impression after all of the reading ive done that running the HCG in your pct isnt good.

"HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production."

im running it during my cycle and when i start my pct ill will discontinue the use of HCG. I just need to know what the best thing to use for the GYNO form the anadrol would be. As i said before i have arimidex,clomid,nolvadex and HCG. I read that the GYNO from anadrol is different than gyno from other steroids so i would need something different.I also read thats its bad to use nolva with deca so that is out of the question then i guess. I dont have that many things available other than what i have so would the arimidex be good enough?As i stated before as well im not prone to gyno with anything else ive ever taken i just dont want to take the chance with the anadrol and wana make sure i have something on hand just in case before i start as i always like to be prepared and not just jump into things like a moron .So what would really happen if i ran nolva while on deca if i start to see signs of gyno? Thanks again guys