this last time I stacked it with M1d...but the first no...it doesnt take long at all...take 20mgs the first week then I did 40mg the rest of the bottle...then of course PCT...every week I was gaining about 2lbs from week 1...also had no problem adding weight each week...I heard Phera Plex stacked w/ Superdrol is the shit but like I said was not able to get and superdrol so I used md...