Oh thats just what other people have cycled and what I've heard will work best. I was going to take Perfect Cycle (for liver) and Policosanol (for cholesterol) and for PCT I was going to get Novedex XT and Retain. Theres always people at my gym that are talking about steroids and a while back they were all talking about superdrol and how it is alot safer to actually be on juice then to be on superdrol. I personally didnt believe them, but now after hearing everyone talking about how toxic it is I might have to go out and look for the real stuff.