Summer Plans

[digitizedsoul]

So i'm on the last few days of my sustain, and about 3-4 more weeks of natty time after that to complete my PCT.

Lost a LOOOOT of water / bloat after coming off those PH's. Went from 202lbs to around 192lbs, but my stomach / love handles look 100% better as well.

I am planning on doing the "real deal" this time around because although I got great results with my "super legal stack" (lol) I want to be the guy in my social circles that people go "holy @$(# that guy got freakin JACKED"

I was considering primo / var, or var / tbol like someone else mentioned being on recently. I like what swole has had to say about primobolan, I LOVE what i've heard about anavar, and turanibol is a bit of a mystery to me. I have never tried any of the above compounds, but they seem to carry the properties i'm looking for.

I know that it is almost mandatory to include a base of test, and I will decide on the ester for that next. Most likely it will be a blend of sorts since that is what I have always used.

Any ideas guys? My previous cycle history is in several of my threads including my log so I didn't want to repost it all, but if required I can.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Hey bro, welcome to the "real deal"!

I haven't run primo yet, my first time will be later this year as my bulker. But I do highly recommend a simple test and t-bol (as kickstarter) cycle. 10 weeks will do you good. Trust me, you'll LOVE it! Always a good idea to start off with as few compounds as possible to see how each one treats you.

Good luck!

 

[GUARDIAN]

Hey bro, welcome to the "real deal"!

I haven't run primo yet, my first time will be later this year as my bulker. But I do highly recommend a simple test and t-bol (as kickstarter) cycle. 10 weeks will do you good. Trust me, you'll LOVE it! Always a good idea to start off with as few compounds as possible to see how each one treats you.

Good luck!

+1

 

[digitizedsoul]

Hey bro, welcome to the "real deal"!

I haven't run primo yet, my first time will be later this year as my bulker. But I do highly recommend a simple test and t-bol (as kickstarter) cycle. 10 weeks will do you good. Trust me, you'll LOVE it! Always a good idea to start off with as few compounds as possible to see how each one treats you.

Good luck!

Wow thanks for the quick response bro. I have seen you post quiet a bit and appreciate your input.

I am trying to keep the test doseage really low, like around 250mg a week or so. I don't want a lot of test / androgen side effects that are difficult to explain to my work environment and such. I often give large presentations in front of corporate communities and if my voice suddenly drops another octave it will be difficult to explain, especially if I don't have a cold and it isn't temporary lol.

That would be about 0.5cc's 2x a week of most blends such as sustanon.

2 pins a week would be ideal considering my schedule and available place / time to store this stuff and pin.

That leads me to my next suggestion. I'm really leaning towards anavar, but primobolan is also in oral form.

Anyone used oral primo's? Would something like 250mg a week of test with primo in for the duration and anavar for the last half?

 

[njmuscleguy]

Don't let anyone convince you otherwise that 250mg/wk isn't a good enough dosage... especially if it's your first go-around with test.... you WILL grow nicely (diet!). I don't see why you can't use var instead of t-bol...I have more experience with t-bol, hence my recommendation.

As for sustanon, my buds and I personally saw more bloat with it than say enth or cyp. Maybe it's from the longer-acting ester(s). So you may want to consider this if bloat is an issue for you.

 

[digitizedsoul]

Don't let anyone convince you otherwise that 250mg/wk isn't a good enough dosage... especially if it's your first go-around with test.... you WILL grow nicely (diet!). I don't see why you can't use var instead of t-bol...I have more experience with t-bol, hence my recommendation.

Excellent man thanks a lot.

So here is what I have so far:

250mg/wk sust250 10wks
???mg/wk primo 10wks
???mg/wk anavar wks 5-10

 

[digitizedsoul]

I also think I'll run two bottles of derma which should last me almost throughout.

PCT in my mind will be:

1 bottle of sustain
1 bottle Nelsons PCT stuff (can't recall the name)
letro / nolva combo on hand for gyno control, and if necessary.

I want to avoid clomid or any other "depression" influencing drug. I won't need anything adding to the depression plate when going through PCT and not "feeling" it anymore if you know what I mean.

 

[digitizedsoul]

make that 275mg/wk andropen

 

[digitizedsoul]

Girl sais no "real deal"

So no real deal.

Guess its time for "Super legal stack V2.0"

 

[sensational]

Girl sais no "real deal"

So no real deal.

Guess its time for "Super legal stack V2.0"

Cue whip sound....


Kidding, good job in not letting supplements come between your RL relationships!

 

[digitizedsoul]

It's God, Her, Me.

How it should be if you ask me.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

Hey bro, welcome to the "real deal"!

I haven't run primo yet, my first time will be later this year as my bulker. But I do highly recommend a simple test and t-bol (as kickstarter) cycle. 10 weeks will do you good. Trust me, you'll LOVE it! Always a good idea to start off with as few compounds as possible to see how each one treats you.

Good luck!

^^^^

 

[digitizedsoul]

^^^^

Wish I could

Man I was really looking forward to trying out primobolan...

Oh well a life long mate can't be traded for a few glory years of being the "big dude"

 

[SouthernLord]

Why don;t you run 8 weeks of Derma with an oral such as Var or tbol? Would your loved one know the diff between Var and Prohormones? If you are not pinning would she know the difference? Good luck in what ever you decide.

 

[digitizedsoul]

Why don;t you run 8 weeks of Derma with an oral such as Var or tbol? Would your loved one know the diff between Var and Prohormones? If you are not pinning would she know the difference? Good luck in what ever you decide.

Well I may get the approval for a compound like that, and if so wouldn't oral primo be more effective?

I bet that would be a nice little mini-cycle

 

[the_alcatraz]

Test Cyp
Primo

Shoudn't that be enough to start with?

Just sayin.

 

[digitizedsoul]

Test Cyp
Primo

Shoudn't that be enough to start with?

Just sayin.

Heh if I was "Able" to do test cyp, i'd be "Able" to do the sustanon i originaly planned on too :\

Can't though. My girl is the best there is. Worth far more then easy muscle gains. Pleasing her is def a higher priority.

I need to explain to her a couple things about endocrinology / horomones / orals / liver & PCT etc...

I seriously doubt she'll EVER "like" any of it, or EVER "let" me do some serious injectables. I just know her, she cares about me too much, and in her mind they are bad so it makes sense :\

 

[digit0x]

Heh if I was "Able" to do test cyp, i'd be "Able" to do the sustanon i originaly planned on too :\

Can't though. My girl is the best there is. Worth far more then easy muscle gains. Pleasing her is def a higher priority.

I need to explain to her a couple things about endocrinology / horomones / orals / liver & PCT etc...

I seriously doubt she'll EVER "like" any of it, or EVER "let" me do some serious injectables. I just know her, she cares about me too much, and in her mind they are bad so it makes sense :\

 

[digitizedsoul]

Priorities my friend, priorities...