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Summer Cycle Advice

deify3

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Greetings Bros.. I've been an on again / off again Juicer for a few years now and I don't need extremely high doses to get solid gains. I am trying to just pack on about 6lbs more of muscle while losing another 4% bodyfat (Currently 178lbs 11%BF). I have devised a few cycles and wanted your suggestion on which one would be best. Obviously each cycle would vary as far as tapering, etc, and I would be using the proper anti-e's.. I've been using a lot of Winny in the past and want to utilize other substances as I have a feeling the different chemicals would push me above and beyond...

Cycle 1
Primo 200mgs + EQ 200mgs + Turanabol (+ little test)

Cycle 2
Test @ 250mgs + Primo 200mgs

Cycle 3
Tren @ 75mgs eod + little test (winny at end)

Cycle 4
Primo 200mgs + 50mgs oral winny ed + 125mgs test ew

Your advice is greatly appreciated.. I will be lifting 5 days / week and doing cardio 5-6 times / week
 
What are the durations of these cycles?
Primo and eq at 200mg probably won't do much of anything.
I'd go w/ test/tren.
 
Primo and EQ would be for 10 weeks.. I'd also throw in a little test.. My main goal is to lean up while preserving muscle mass and hopefully gaining a little.. I like this cycle because it just seems so less harsh than Tren / Test. For someone who is prone to acne, it also makes a little more sense..

Tren / Test would be for 8 weeks
 
deify3 said:
Primo and EQ would be for 10 weeks.. I'd also throw in a little test.. My main goal is to lean up while preserving muscle mass and hopefully gaining a little.. I like this cycle because it just seems so less harsh than Tren / Test. For someone who is prone to acne, it also makes a little more sense..

Tren / Test would be for 8 weeks


Yes, tren and test can be a little harsh... and will call for clomid, anti-e's, and maybe an anti-prolactin if you're gyno prone.

If you want to stay simple, make for faster recovery, and not worry about extra anti-e's go for the Primo/Test combo... but Id up the dosage of both to 300mg week though.

125iu EOD HCG throughout the whole cycle would be a great way to make for even faster recovery. Drop this after your last shot. If you follow this, the new Derma Sustain will be all you need for PCT.

-Pp
 
I don't have experience with primo, but it sounds like a primo & test cycle would work nicely, as Pp suggested. And EQ for 10 weeks is practically a waste, you'd want to run it a few weeks longer than that. My personal preference would be test and tren. You can run tren ace for 6 weeks, test a couple weeks longer, then throw winny at the end. You'll get nice and vascular, plus, tren works very nicely in a calorie-deficient diet.
 
njmuscleguy said:
I don't have experience with primo, but it sounds like a primo & test cycle would work nicely, as Pp suggested. And EQ for 10 weeks is practically a waste, you'd want to run it a few weeks longer than that. My personal preference would be test and tren. You can run tren ace for 6 weeks, test a couple weeks longer, then throw winny at the end. You'll get nice and vascular, plus, tren works very nicely in a calorie-deficient diet.
bumping njmuscle. for what you want test/tren would be ideal. just make sure you run tren ace/test prop. like nj said, 6 weeks would be great and id keep the test at about 50mg eod with tren at 37.5-50mg eod. that would keep sides to a minimum.
 
primo needs to be used at 300mg or more for any noticeable gains.

for a good cutter:

primo 400mg weeks: 1-8
propionate 100mg eod weeks: 1-8
winstrol: 50mg a day weeks: 4-8
 
test prop 100mg eod or ed
tren ace 75mg
masteron 100mg or winstrol 50mg(ed)

i dont believe i will ever run another cycle without tren.
 
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