suicide threats

[GaryWary]

should always be taken seriously. 15% of clinically depressed people commit suicide. Suicide is the 2nd biggest cause of young person death (road accidents are the 1st biggest cause).

So, regardless of whether you guys think that someone is just being a drama queen, and regardless of whether you think someone is acting psycho.. the correct response is to say "what is wrong?" The correct response is not ridicule. I hardly visit these boards nowadays.. I am off work at the moment so I just popped in. I think that some of you fuckers should gain some maturity.

I am of course referring to threads concerning smalls.

 

[freak daddy]

I could'nt agree more Gary. You are absolutely correct on those stats too.

 

[MommaKin]

did smalls even say that? I never read it anywhere, so, I wouldn't know.....I only heard ppl say she did and half said she didn't....so, hth do you know if she even said it?

 

[HappyScrappy]

I'd also like to point out that she, as someone that posted here many times everyday has been nowhere to be seen on here since then.

I hope she is okay.

 

[strongchick]

I just did a search on her last post...she sounded troubled.

 

[GaryWary]

did smalls even say that? I never read it anywhere, so, I wouldn't know.....I only heard ppl say she did and half said she didn't....so, hth do you know if she even said it?

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=803143#post803143

 

[danielson]

I'd also like to point out that she, as someone that posted here many times everyday has been nowhere to be seen on here since then.

I hope she is okay.

maybe you can contact her...im sure she'd appreciate talking to a friend

 

[HappyScrappy]

for the most part - it is just as well she doesn't come back to the board since the was apparently more sensative to the dipshits on here and also seemed to draw them in so well.

 

[danielson]

maybe it is best

i just hope she doesnt do anything stupid.....she's never been able to detach herself from what happens on these boards from what ive observed, and given that most of these guys are a bunch of 15yr olds holding each others cocks thats a dangerous thing

 

[HappyScrappy]

for future reference - I tried to kill myself in high school and went through a lot during and after that - and I will gladly talk with anyone on the board that is having a rough time of it and has thoughts like that.
there is a social stigma related to it all, partly brought about through religion - if you break your arm, you aren't considered weak or weird - but if you have low seratonin levels (depression), you are somehow seen as being at fault for not being able to control that.

 

[GaryWary]

maybe it is best

i just hope she doesnt do anything stupid.....she's never been able to detach herself from what happens on these boards from what ive observed, and given that most of these guys are a bunch of 15yr olds holding each others cocks thats a dangerous thing

I agree. I know that some people spend a lot of time here and are normal happy people - with lives that feature other things aside from the net. However, I spent the most time here when I was living in Brixton, South East London (the roughest part of London - think the Bronx). My friends were miles away. I was on-cycle (a reason for visiting EF) but dreadfully depressed and unhappy. My time spent on this board was proportional to my unhappiness. She spends too much time here... why is she not with friends? She is beautiful - why is she not being dated? This board is not a healthy place to spend too much time. How can a discussion board rival what you get from real people? If she was telling people on the board that she wanted to die - lets hope she has real friends whom she can confide in.

I haven't read many of smalls posts - though I have noticed whenever I visit she spends a lot of time here... I think smalls is having a crises.

 

[danielson]

she's got friends (that she's met) on here at least...im sure se can talk whenever she wants to

 

[big4life]

It sounds like smalls is calling out for help.
I hope some of her friends here try to reach out to her and help.


For everyone else, please remember that just because you
think you're being cute or funny, doesn't mean you're
not hurting the other person. You can't see the other person you're picking at. You probably don't know what they're going through. So think before you type.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

Amazed as always...

 

[GaryWary]

for future reference - I tried to kill myself in high school and went through a lot during and after that - and I will gladly talk with anyone on the board that is having a rough time of it and has thoughts like that.
there is a social stigma related to it all, partly brought about through religion - if you break your arm, you aren't considered weak or weird - but if you have low seratonin levels (depression), you are somehow seen as being at fault for not being able to control that.

All mental illnesses carry stigma. Mention depression to an employer - and your progress will be hindered. Be too depressed with your friends - and you will eventually lose most of them... Go to see a doc and mention depression and you will be prescribed shit drugs that often don't work. Therapy is as likely to be offered as not offered... Depression is the worst illness anyone can experience. It has many negative effects on the immune system also.. More should be done to educate people about depression. Most of us will face a period of clinical depression at some point in our lives.

 

[HappyScrappy]

Most of us will face a period of clinical depression at some point in our lives.

what I find humorous - is that the people that likely don't go through it are the pathetic wastes of flesh that are too stupid to be self aware of the worthless existence that they live - they just sit back and go about their wasted life, happy as a clam.
I can list about 20 of them on this board.
on the other hand if you are smart enough and aware enough of your surroundings so that you can actually question what is going on - then yes - you are far more likely to experience at some point.

 

[GaryWary]

a few more facts...

Men are more likely to succeed at suicide (they usually pick more extreme methods - i.e. guns, cars, hanging). Women are more likely to survive eg. take pills and then be rescued. Many suicide attempts are not fatal because they were not intended to be.. however, even a pathetic half-attempt at suicide means someone is calling for help or support. Humanity is about hearing these calls and responding (as much as is possible to respond and support).. even if it does seem strange that someone is using a fitness discussion board to air those feelings.... Perhaps the anonyminity (cannot spell!) of the boards means someone is more likely to air what they are feeling... I don't know.

Jeez, I have spent too much time here today.

Suffice to say - can someone who knows Smalls make sure she is ok? Someone who talks to her via ICQ perhaps...

 

[saint808]

Damn I dunno what is going on in here... but people often joke about suicide and then do it... shouldn't be taken lightly... anybody hear from her?


Rich

 

[Lao Tzu]

a few more facts...

Men are more likely to succeed at suicide (they usually pick more extreme methods - i.e. guns, cars, hanging). Women are more likely to survive eg. take pills and then be rescued. Many suicide attempts are not fatal because they were not intended to be.. however, even a pathetic half-attempt at suicide means someone is calling for help or support. Humanity is about hearing these calls and responding (as much as is possible to respond and support).. even if it does seem strange that someone is using a fitness discussion board to air those feelings.... Perhaps the anonyminity (cannot spell!) of the boards means someone is more likely to air what they are feeling... I don't know.

Jeez, I have spent too much time here today.

Suffice to say - can someone who knows Smalls make sure she is ok? Someone who talks to her via ICQ perhaps...

i don't know about that. i think that you are seeing what you want to see (i hope suicidal people don't really want to die). i know allllllot about suicide methods (im not suicidal anymore, i was a few months ago but i have more hope now) and my friends who have killed themselves knew alot about it too. i think its more ignorance of how to commit suicide properly that is in the way, not crying for help (although im sure that happens too)
whatever makes sma happy, as long as she knows what she is doing, i will support her in.

 

[MasterMind]

for future reference - I tried to kill myself in high school and went through a lot during and after that - and I will gladly talk with anyone on the board that is having a rough time of it and has thoughts like that.
there is a social stigma related to it all, partly brought about through religion - if you break your arm, you aren't considered weak or weird - but if you have low seratonin levels (depression), you are somehow seen as being at fault for not being able to control that.

Went through the same shit at the same time and I will gladly talk to anyone who is going through it too......depression comes and goes....sometimes it is worse then others...once you realize what life is really like I can't blame ya for getting depressed and not wanting to be here...but for one truly happy moment.....all the depression in the world is worth it...and thats a fact

 

[J-DAM]

what I find humorous - is that the people that likely don't go through it are the pathetic wastes of flesh that are too stupid to be self aware of the worthless existence that they live - they just sit back and go about their wasted life, happy as a clam.

If you're not depressed, you're worthless (or as you put it, a pathetic waste of flesh)?

Nice theory Freud.

Some people are able to cope and handle their emotions better than others. It doesn't mean that they don't go through the same struggles - emotionaly and mentally - that "depressed" people do. Thats jibberish.

I was there the night this all happened. In about one hour she went from a jolly person talking about mandarin oranges to stating she was ugliest person in the world and all of her Elite Fitness "friends" hate her. That night, there were lots of "are you ugly" & "are you a loser" threads, and she made it a point to be seen on all of those. From what I could see, the "suicide threat" was just a way to up the ante on her previous statements.. I didn't even see it as a threat at all really.

She's obviously not getting the support from people she percieved as friends here on Elite Fitness. So before you start pointing fingers at others, take a gander into a mirror and figure out what YOU did wrong.

I have never been in a deep depression, nor have I ever contemplated suicide. But I do think that the most painful life is still better than the lonliness of death.


Signed,
Pathetic Waste of Flesh

 

[Lao Tzu]

By the way, anyone who posts pics of another board member without their permission is an asshole. I know this happened to smalls a few days ago. That's not cool.

does your wife know you are distributing her round ass on elite? .

 

[Lao Tzu]

Happy Scrappy carries on like he's fucking God or something... I don't know why so many people on this board go for some of the horseshit that that dickhead posts.

he's not a dickhead. he's somewhat arrogant, but he is a much deeper & protective person than 85% of the board after you get to know him.

 

[GaryWary]

dont waste your time on these guys J-DAM. They see a vigina on the forum and they will defend her to the death.

You fucking moron. I have a girlfriend and I have no interest in Smalls. Dude, come to England.. I'd like to smack your face so hard.

 

[MommaKin]

happyscrappy isnt so bad after you get to know him..nordstrom is antoher story..

he's not a dickhead. he's somewhat arrogant, but he is a much deeper & protective person than 85% of the board after you get to know him.

 

[J-DAM]

Can you feel the love?

 

[GaryWary]

why dont you hike your little ass over to CA fat body. You better just unfuck yourself before I unscew your head and shit down your neck !

I am going to Cali next year. Stay in touch little boy. Now I ain't gonna respond anymore. I got other things to read and surf...

You little prick.

 

[Lao Tzu]

happyscrappy isnt so bad after you get to know him..nordstrom is antoher story..

was that an insult or a joke

 

[saint808]

wtf is going on with everybody these past couple of days? vacation passes from the asylum? my opinion... i understand life can be overbearring, and that most people who commit suicide don't want to die they only want change and sometimes they really want someone to talk them out of it... but i have a deeper feeling for it as well...

you ever watch someone you care about die of cancer?

I lost my father in 1994 when i was 21... he didn't want to die, he had no choice... therefore if you take your life over something that is obviously so petty such as taxes and debt then fuck you!

I lost my mother earlier this year due to heart problems, she didn't want to die either...

so if someone wants to be that selfish over something so incredibly stupid then i say make sure you get it right... it's not suicide it's darwinism natural selection at work...

I know this may offend some people, but i am sorry... what gives someone the right to do that?

 

[Pink Space Biscuit]

I'm with you 100% Saint.

 

[Lao Tzu]

what right do you have to tell people you don't even know what they can or can't do with their lives? do you even know smalls real name? no. but she spends 24 hours a day with herself. so she has a better idea (probably) of what is best for her than we do.

and most people that try to prevent suicide couldn't care less about the person anyway. all they care about is the status quo, and upholding social convention. it doesn't matter what is good or bad for the person, only how it reflects on society as a whole. the epitome of self absorbtion, masquarading as 'wholesome concern'

im sorry your family had to die. but none of us know each other that well. we are all anonymous faces who only have a superficial glimse at what goes on in the other person's life.

wtf is going on with everybody these past couple of days? vacation passes from the asylum? my opinion... i understand life can be overbearring, and that most people who commit suicide don't want to die they only want change and sometimes they really want someone to talk them out of it... but i have a deeper feeling for it as well...

you ever watch someone you care about die of cancer?

I lost my father in 1994 when i was 21... he didn't want to die, he had no choice... therefore if you take your life over something that is obviously so petty such as taxes and debt then fuck you!

I lost my mother earlier this year due to heart problems, she didn't want to die either...

so if someone wants to be that selfish over something so incredibly stupid then i say make sure you get it right... it's not suicide it's darwinism natural selection at work...

I know this may offend some people, but i am sorry... what gives someone the right to do that?

 

[J-DAM]

He was simply stating that life is precious. If you don't believe that, its a slap in the face to all doctors, surgeons, EMTs, firefighter and policemen (and women) that dedicate their OWN lives to help preserve others.

You may have religious beliefs that cause you to believe otherwise, but I really don't think suicide, or death in general, is "best" for anyone.

 

[GaryWary]

wtf is going on with everybody these past couple of days? vacation passes from the asylum? my opinion... i understand life can be overbearring, and that most people who commit suicide don't want to die they only want change and sometimes they really want someone to talk them out of it... but i have a deeper feeling for it as well...

you ever watch someone you care about die of cancer?

I lost my father in 1994 when i was 21... he didn't want to die, he had no choice... therefore if you take your life over something that is obviously so petty such as taxes and debt then fuck you!

I lost my mother earlier this year due to heart problems, she didn't want to die either...

so if someone wants to be that selfish over something so incredibly stupid then i say make sure you get it right... it's not suicide it's darwinism natural selection at work...

I know this may offend some people, but i am sorry... what gives someone the right to do that?

Sorry to hear about your loss.

 

[GaryWary]

what right do you have to tell people you don't even know what they can or can't do with their lives? do you even know smalls real name? no. but she spends 24 hours a day with herself. so she has a better idea (probably) of what is best for her than we do.

and most people that try to prevent suicide couldn't care less about the person anyway. all they care about is the status quo, and upholding social convention. it doesn't matter what is good or bad for the person, only how it reflects on society as a whole. the epitome of self absorbtion, masquarading as 'wholesome concern'

im sorry your family had to die. but none of us know each other that well. we are all anonymous faces who only have a superficial glimse at what goes on in the other person's life.

Spot on. You are a wise man.

 

[saint808]

exactly my point... i have always dug reading her posts until that one... and i didn't reply to it at all because i thought it was petty... now if there are more underlying issues that's fine talk em out... i'm here all the time i'll listen and give any advice i think might help... i'll try my best to help anyone at any given time... suicide just pisses me off... if you are gonna die at least make it count for something... i realize that this has gotten way out of hand and this is the last thing i will post on it... i hope smalls is ok and i hope she comes back.


Rich

 

[Lao Tzu]

exactly my point... i have always dug reading her posts until that one... and i didn't reply to it at all because i thought it was petty... now if there are more underlying issues that's fine talk em out... i'm here all the time i'll listen and give any advice i think might help... i'll try my best to help anyone at any given time... suicide just pisses me off... if you are gonna die at least make it count for something... i realize that this has gotten way out of hand and this is the last thing i will post on it... i hope smalls is ok and i hope she comes back.


Rich

thats nice. she seems to feel forgotten, so someone being willing to help her out may make her feel better.

 

[spongebob]

what I find humorous - is that the people that likely don't go through it are the pathetic wastes of flesh that are too stupid to be self aware of the worthless existence that they live - they just sit back and go about their wasted life, happy as a clam.
I can list about 20 of them on this board.
on the other hand if you are smart enough and aware enough of your surroundings so that you can actually question what is going on - then yes - you are far more likely to experience at some point.

let me see if i understand this,granted im probaly too stupid to cause ive been as happy as a clam my whole life.
apparently if you go through clinical depression you have an insight, that happy people do not have, on how to be happy in life. mmmkay.
so if your as happy as a clam your a pathetic waste of flesh that is too stupid to realize you could be a lot happier if only you had gone thru clinical depression.
two things wrong with your first paragraph.
1. you believe that people are pathetic waste of flesh.
2. and you find that humorous.

uhmm.....humorous....isn't that what this whole situation is about. people that found smalls' situation humorous.

2nd. paragraph,
if being smart and aware means that i have to go thru clinical depression and attempt suicide in order to be enlightened, i'll just leave the lights off here.
what i dont agree with in your post and so many other self-rightous post here is that there is always an assumption of low intelligence with the people you disagree with or dont like.
why do people feel that they must toot their own horns in order to make a point or win a debate.

i know im about to get my ass flamed for this post, but im just pointing things out, and not neccesarily just your post HS. i tend to like all your post but strongly disagree with this one, i just feel that it is based on your emotional connection to smalls.
someone recieved a severe flaming here the other day, as it turns out she may have had problems to start with. even after that information surfaced a moderator posted a 10 paragraph bashing towards her.
where were any of you then, i guess since you didn't know her or didn't like her it didn't bother you.
if we claim to care about everybody then lets care about EVERYBODY.
peace.

 

[HappyScrappy]

thanks sponge.
you and several others pointed out how poorly worded what I wrote was.
it was done quickly and unfortunately not proofread, so therefore the miswording was never fixed.

to me it makes sense, but I can see how it could be read other ways - like I said, it was poorly written (hell, I suck at writing).

I didn't mean to indicate that people that are happy could in no way be smart.
I didn't mean to indicate that people that go through depression are in anyway better.
in fact, people going through depression have a chemical deficiency, so they are in fact hurting and not better in that sense.

I don't really feel like going into what I did mean, because in all honesty - it doesn't matter.
you guys have your opinion of me - which is excellent that you are thinking for yourselves - I'm fine with that. I'm not out to win the popularity contest - and I'm glad to see some people on here actually thinking and debating instead of being sheep in a herd.

and I don't know who the other person that you are referring to - but I have an idea - I don't know how to contact her or else I would - but I don't think she comes to the board anymore, and I hope she is okay.

 

[Fonz]

Ok, I think its time to stop with the theorizing here.

Talking about someone's personal life is JUST NOT ON.

Fair enough, smalls seems a bit depressed but I really have
to know: WHY DO SOME OF YOU WORTHLESS PIECES
OF SHIT still pick on her/belittle her?????

You know who you are and I have also seen your posts on
the A-board. Keep going at it and I'll make your posts
last for one second on the A-board.
Keep going at it and you'll get banned.

Do you remotely think this is funny?

These boards were created to HELP people NOT
belittle them.

This is one of the reasons the chat board is viewed
like a cesspool by most people out-side the board.
You're just proving it for them by your actions.

And I SERIOUSLY doubt Smalls is doing this for
attention. If you think that, you're a SORRY EXCUSE
FOR A HUMAN BEING.

Fonz

 

[spongebob]

thanks sponge.
you and several others pointed out how poorly worded what I wrote was.
it was done quickly and unfortunately not proofread, so therefore the miswording was never fixed.

to me it makes sense, but I can see how it could be read other ways - like I said, it was poorly written (hell, I suck at writing).

I didn't mean to indicate that people that are happy could in no way be smart.
I didn't mean to indicate that people that go through depression are in anyway better.
in fact, people going through depression have a chemical deficiency, so they are in fact hurting and not better in that sense.

I don't really feel like going into what I did mean, because in all honesty - it doesn't matter.
you guys have your opinion of me - which is excellent that you are thinking for yourselves - I'm fine with that. I'm not out to win the popularity contest - and I'm glad to see some people on here actually thinking and debating instead of being sheep in a herd.

and I don't know who the other person that you are referring to - but I have an idea - I don't know how to contact her or else I would - but I don't think she comes to the board anymore, and I hope she is okay.

im certainly glad to see that i have found another person that i can have a discussion with, without it esculating.
i joke alot on here, i like to leave the serious issues where they belong, and for me thats my real life.
if i joke too much and someone takes offense then i'll quit, but thats me.
that other person is apparently having a very bad time right now, maybe not so much as the of the flaming she took, but because of her own issues. the flaming may have triggered it.
but i am very sad to see what has happened with her. im extremely puzzled by it.
like i said thanks for the response and take it easy.

 

[spongebob]

Ok, I think its time to stop with the theorizing here.

Talking about someone's personal life is JUST NOT ON.

Fair enough, smalls seems a bit depressed but I really have
to know: WHY DO SOME OF YOU WORTHLESS PIECES
OF SHIT still pick on her/belittle her?????

You know who you are and I have also seen your posts on
the A-board. Keep going at it and I'll make your posts
last for one second on the A-board.
Keep going at it and you'll get banned.

Do you remotely think this is funny?

These boards were created to HELP people NOT
belittle them.

This is one of the reasons the chat board is viewed
like a cesspool by most people out-side the board.
You're just proving it for them by your actions.

And I SERIOUSLY doubt Smalls is doing this for
attention. If you think that, you're a SORRY EXCUSE
FOR A HUMAN BEING.

Fonz

fonz,
you of all people to talk about humility. you severely thrashed buksoon, and for what, FOR WHAT? so you can parade around and hold your trophy up high in the air and say look what i did to buksoon. what a great accomplishment in life. belittling women to the point of no return.
Stumpy told you, you oughta know your place as both a man and a moderator. those words couldnt have been more true.
being a man is a full-time gig. you cant claim it and then unleash the insults you did. that tells me your a part timer.
you may have had the "best" education in the world and thats fine i sometimes envy you for it, but at least im smart enough to know when to admit im wrong, which ive never seen you do. all i hear from you is toot-toot in every damn post.
i chalk it up to your youth.
you might as well not respond to this post because i know exactly what your gonna say, ive been around the block twice and have dealt with your kind before.

 

[Fonz]

Interesting post.

However, there is a big difference between the topic
of conversation on Buksoon's thread and the topic
of conversation on this thread don't you think?

Behave both as a man and a moderator?

Technically incorrect. I am NOT a Chat Mod. Look
above.

As a man, I will ALWAYS tell the person EXACTLY what
I think of them. I'm Honest. That simple.

Buksoon deserved it. I have to deal with people like
her on a daily basis who don't listen to scientific
reasoning but rather obvious propaganda.
The main difference is that most people can
RECOGNIZE scientific evidence, wether as
she CANNOT.

However, I don't follow people around from thread
to thread. Buksoon and I had a discussion on one thread
and thats the end of it as far as I'm concerned.
The next thread will begin with a clean slate. Thats
the WAY I AM.

And who are you to call me un-gentlemanlike?
This is the internet. Words speak.
In real life there is such thing as having a "polite" tone
and being "civilized". In here, those two things
just don't exist, and you know that.

And why bring this up? There are more important
things at stake.

Fonz

 

[spongebob]

Technically incorrect. I am NOT a Chat Mod. Look
above.

Buksoon deserved it. I have to deal with people like
her on a daily basis who don't listen to scientific
reasoning but rather obvious propaganda.
The main difference is that most people can
RECOGNIZE scientific evidence, wether as
she CANNOT.

Fonz

all it say's is moderator.

she asked "why do people use to get bigger", it had nonthing to do with the affects, results or disadvantages of AS or the propaganda that is put out about AS

most people would have RECOGNIZED that.

i told you i knew exactly what your response would be.

i'm done.

 

[Frackal]

Buksoon deserved the thrashing.

 

[spongebob]

of course she did, she out smarted you.

 

[Fonz]

of course she did, she out smarted you.

LOL, sure she did......

Now, do us all a favour and let it die.

THE THREAD WAS OVER 2 days AGO.

Fonz.

 

[Frackal]

of course she did, she out smarted you.

Are you serious?

 

[spongebob]

Are you serious?

rarely.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

I have lost five family members in the last year from suicide to cancer. When it's over it's over. The only time I have anger for when people die is when it's by someones elses murdering hand's. If someone wants to off themself then so be it, that's their choice. Some people can't handle the heat in lifes kitchen and check out. If you want to live then enjoy it.

As for smalls.

She is in Grad School (Thats enough to make a person nuts)
May spend to much time on Elite (trying to seek attention)
Is on drugs for Dep.
Does not have a good diet. (wich can cause depression)
And has some serious personal issues to confront.

If she is in the deep Depression Zone as she claims then she needs to leave school and get some serious Psychiatric help. She may be doing that now. If she decides not to then that's her choice. If she opens up and let others know around her (not elite members) how she feels then maybe they can get her help. But it's pretty much in her hands in what she want's to do for now.

But no matter what you think of smalls she is still a decent person and deserves to have a good life. So smalls even though the Dcup can be blunt and hard to handle sometimes, he hopes that things work themselves out for you.

 

[spongebob]

And who are you to call me un-gentlemanlike?
This is the internet. Words speak.
In real life there is such thing as having a "polite" tone
and being "civilized". In here, those two things
just don't exist, and you know that.



Fonz

no i dont know that, im the opposite, you see it accomplishes nonthing to be "in-polite" and "uncivilized" in here. the accomplihment is in the fact that we exchange ideas and opinions using written text. we can not get into a physical altercation so flaming is pointless.
whereas in real life if you said the shit you've said here, i would be anything but "polite" and "civilized". you can engage in a physical confrontation. now thats an accomplihment.

 

[GaryWary]

so we are all friends again....

goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

 

[MasterMind]

I can see where your all coming from, but I urge you to take suicide threats seriously....I had a friend once who said it and I didn't take it seriously....everyday I feel guilty about it, even if you don't like the person that doesn't warrant death. If you don't feel like helping then don't joke around at it...suicide is nothing to poke fun at....you never know who is willing to do it....

 

[spongebob]

this thread needs to comit suicide.

 

[Wombat]

Some of you may think that people have the power to control a persons mind. You don't and never will...There are good and "bad" people in this world. The way to get through life is to try to surround yourself with the good and stay away from the "bad". Its easier said then done. There are "bad"things or demans if you will all over the place. And whats interesting is we all have a choice. Do we bring them in or keep them out. Some are harder to distinguish then others. They come in all diff--shapes, sizes and diff-approaches. But they are there and the truth is they have absolutely no control over ones mind. And they can't stand not having control over it. They try harder and harder to break a person. On the surface they succeed some times. And want to take credit for it. But its never them that break the person but the person breaking themselves. When a person we know kills themselves. Its natural to feel guilty. But that is the wrong feeling one should have. To feel guilty is to think that you are so powerful to have control over another persons mind and that can never happen. And if you feel that you do have control over another persons mind then you must truly be god. And we all know thats not true. You can be a good person or you can be someones demand. But to be that, they would have to let you in. Its all just energy that we give off. What type of energy do you want to give to someone?

 

[GaryWary]

It is time to let this thread commit suicide. It is tired. Close me please!

 

[spongebob]

i agree