stupidly mis-timed cycle

[bluetwistedsteel67]

Here's the deal. I've been on tren/prop for about 8weeks (100 tren ed and 100mg prop eod) and my plan was to run 14 weeks. I have hit a dead end with no more strength gains and no size gains for almost 2 weeks. Usually at this point I would drop the gear and start my PCT. The problem is 4th of July is about a month away and my cycles revolve around that particular week. I don't want the tren crash and I don't want to be 4 weeks post cycle on my vacation. What do you guys think about me jumping right into another 8 weeker of winny and deca (that was originally my planned next cycle) and just running straight through. I don't want to do this cycle for 4 weeks and I want to drop at least the tren. K for good advice.

 

[UFC22]

I say drop the tren and move the prop to 100mgs/ED. Tren is not meant to be used for 14wks anyways but im sure you know that! I think the increase from prop EOD to ED for a total of 700mgs outta be enough. I would not switch to deca. If anythin increase the prop dosage and add winny bro! good luck.

 

[badslinky]

See I recover well, so i might do something crazy like that with HCG use throughout, only you know how youll recover.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

Why would you avoid the deca? Higher doses of test (higher than 500mg) gives me gyno even with anti e's. I don't have any desire to go through gyno surgery again. I know tren is best at about 8 weeks (as was confirmed in this cycle) but I love the shit and you just hope sometimes you can milk it a few extra weeks. That's why I said it was a stupidly mis-timed cycle. I knew better.

 

[UFC22]

Why would you avoid the deca? Higher doses of test (higher than 500mg) gives me gyno even with anti e's. I don't have any desire to go through gyno surgery again. I know tren is best at about 8 weeks (as was confirmed in this cycle) but I love the shit and you just hope sometimes you can milk it a few extra weeks. That's why I said it was a stupidly mis-timed cycle. I knew better.

I see your dilemma now. I just assumed you would have no problems with a higher dosage of test, my bad. 8 wks of deca just seems like it would not be to productive and shut you down harder. I mean going from tren to deca? C'mon now. IF you are goin to run deca tho I suggest some NPP instead since it will act much quicker and you will get the full benefit of it in the 8 week span yano?

 

[badslinky]

Are you sure you can get gyno again once you have surg, I didnt think you could. Maybe thats just a myth.

 

[UFC22]

If he got the gland removed he would not if im correct, but if he didn't its just as possible as the first time.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

Are you sure you can get gyno again once you have surg, I didnt think you could. Maybe thats just a myth.

It's a total myth. When they do the surgery they don't remove the mamory gland completely, just the part that has grown. Gyno can definitely come back and I think if you've had it once it's actually eaier to get the next time.

 

[Goldprospector]

I did not have what I would consider a crash from tren...Is your PCT up to snuff?

 

[njmuscleguy]

this is by no means an expert opinion or suggestion but I just remembered something I read recently about IGF and thought it might work for your dilemma? what if you stopped now and started PCT as soon as possible and ran IGF ... I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) you can run it effectively during PCT and afterwards, making it a nice bridging agent until after your holidays and when you're ready for your next cycle.... it might help ease the tren crash and you won't have to worry about gyno?

I may be way off base here.... so don't kill me!

 

[supra5469]

this is by no means an expert opinion or suggestion but I just remembered something I read recently about IGF and thought it might work for your dilemma? what if you stopped now and started PCT as soon as possible and ran IGF ... I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) you can run it effectively during PCT and afterwards, making it a nice bridging agent until after your holidays and when you're ready for your next cycle.... it might help ease the tren crash and you won't have to worry about gyno?

I may be way off base here.... so don't kill me!

I read the same thing IGF "for a kickass pct or a nice bridging agent"

 

[GoldenDelicious]

depends on what youre willing to do to your testicular mass with your cycles. the longer youre on, the more drama getting your HPTA online and the higher the potential permanent loss of testicular mass.

youre just going to have to weigh up how you feel about the adverse potential effects of staying on (worse HPTA disruption, permanent gonadal tissue changes) against the downside of being post cycle during vacation

good luck

 

[badslinky]

this is by no means an expert opinion or suggestion but I just remembered something I read recently about IGF and thought it might work for your dilemma? what if you stopped now and started PCT as soon as possible and ran IGF ... I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) you can run it effectively during PCT and afterwards, making it a nice bridging agent until after your holidays and when you're ready for your next cycle.... it might help ease the tren crash and you won't have to worry about gyno?

I may be way off base here.... so don't kill me!

Great idea!