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beefcake28

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I wanna hear stories. Stories about your friends, yourself, whatever... I know that everyone out there has at least one friend (if not yourself) that will go, or did go, to some obscene length to try and win a girl over, past or present... or, especially, to win her back. You know... The person that deserves/deserved a serious bitch-slappin' and made you wonder WTF they were thinkng??

Post 'em up...

:beer:
 
I will carry over my posts from the other thread:
"Yep. I have a close friend (like a brother to me) who is a 27 year old paramedic, who does the most stupid shit with women and relationships, mainly lets every girl move in with him that he has dated for more than one week, literally. Then he convinces himself he is in love with them once they move in, because they are more difficult to get rid of then. Once he is "in love" with them, he calls me constantly to ask how he can change this or that about his girl to make them into what he wants, and all they do is fight and he will call me to see if I see things from his perspective in the arguement."


"beefcake, what really makes me throw my hands up, and lets not even get into the issue of her ex and her son, but the crazy thing with his new one. He is a reasonably fit guy. He works out, does cardio, tries to watch what he eats. Once a few years ago he made fun of me for being drunk and trying to pickup a cut girl in a bar who needed to drop about 30-35 lbs, and still jokes about to this day how he saved me from fucking a whale.

His current girl is about 250 lbs. How, she was that heavy when he met her, she claims to always be doing some stupid ass crash diet for going an entire day without eating, but then every time I see her she is craming down regular coca-cola, cake and candybars. He bitches becuase she is overweight and wants me to help her lose about 80 lbs (I told him she needs to drop 50% of her bodyweight when he kept pestering me), then she will ask me for diet advice then say "See when someone tells me to do something it makes me want to do the opposite".

Now, why are you going to be someone who says any signifigant bodyfat on women turns you off, but let a girl who is 250+ lbs move in with you, and become your girlfriend, and then spend time trying to change her when she really has no desire to be thin. I just want to slap the shit out of him sometimes.

Even my wife bitches about it. Once in front of her he joked about saving me from the fat chick that night in a bar, and when he left the room a second later she goes, "At least my baby isn't fucking Jabba the Hut..."
 
Grand gestures of affection are wonderful, when they are sincere and aren't coming from some weird craziness. I have had a few experiences where someone went out of their way, and I loved it, I guess it just depends on the situation.
 
A man will step over his own mother in pursuit of a woman. Only time will tell if his motives were sincere or if it was all about the hunt.
 
habitualhealth said:
Bleh, i'm usually the one going all out lookin' like a big bobo in the end for going that obscene length.



But i'm a big ol sap so i'm ok with it.
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Once you stop doing this you will have A LOT more success with the opposite sex. I had to learn this the hard way myself.
 
habitualhealth said:
There you go again telling me to not be myself.

Who would you like me to mirror?
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That is not what I am telling you at all.

Be YOU!! Just dont be a doormat. When a woman is too accomodating and pursues the man too vigorously he will ALWAYS take advantage and will NEVER appreciate her.

I spent my whole life being sweet, accomodating, loving, doting and it netted me no good results EVER nor has it netted any female a positive result. It wasnt until I raised the bar and became uncompromising that I began to get better treatment from men. Then it was just a matter of finding the right man FOR ME.

Any time a woman makes it "too easy" for the man SHE LOSES as there is "no challenge". In other words in the back of his mind if it was so easy for me to get her like this (not talking about sex) then ANY man can have her thus decreasing her value to him.

It isnt your fault. It is his, but that is a man's nature nonetheless denying that will only cause you grief and aggrevation as you will waste more energy spinning your wheels with guys that dont deserve you. Let the man work for it. Let him prove his worth to you. YOU already know your worth. :)
 
I've just been way too patient with people that haven't deserved it. It was never just to get laid, I always genuinely liked the girls. That happened a couple of times and I got tired of it.

Friends though, damn. College years, I'd see guys that would basically do all of a girl's work just to hang out with them, only to have them go off with another guy. Tons of shit like that, or I've seen friends change completely and become miserable just to hang out with someone they thought they wanted to be with.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
It isnt your fault. It is his, but that is a man's nature nonetheless denying that will only cause you grief and aggrevation as you will waste more energy spinning your wheels with guys that dont deserve you. Let the man work for it. Let him prove his worth to you. YOU already know your worth. :)
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Oh i know. I was kidding. But yeah the appreciation factor seems to lack more in guys. Of course, I don't date girls so that may be a bias opinion.

I tend to go balls to the wall when I meet someone that I deem worthy. I've been single for year(s). <~~Yes damn it, plural. I went through alot (still am) with my daughter's dad (ex). Too many lessons to be learned to jump into a rebound or guy after guy.

When I do meet someone whose application gets approved, I tend to just be me. That does involve all the googly goo mushy stuff. I understand the risk, the vulnerability in that...but I can't imagine ever finding the love of my life without being completely vulnerable. Hopefully, the lessons I've learned in the past with help in identifying the warning signs or red flags sooner than later going forward....if the guy isn't right.


ps-I'm still single. :D
 
BIKINIMOM said:
That is not what I am telling you at all.

Be YOU!! Just dont be a doormat. When a woman is too accomodating and pursues the man too vigorously he will ALWAYS take advantage and will NEVER appreciate her.

I spent my whole life being sweet, accomodating, loving, doting and it netted me no good results EVER nor has it netted any female a positive result. It wasnt until I raised the bar and became uncompromising that I began to get better treatment from men. Then it was just a matter of finding the right man FOR ME.
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i think those qualities of yours are good, you just have to be careful you are spending them on the right person, and at the right time!
no one should pursue anyone too vigorously, because there is a pace that needs to be followed for a lot of people. and until you know that pace, you have to play it safe.

Any time a woman makes it "too easy" for the man SHE LOSES as there is "no challenge". In other words in the back of his mind if it was so easy for me to get her like this (not talking about sex) then ANY man can have her.

It isnt your fault. It is his, but that is a man's nature nonetheless denying that will only cause you grief and aggrevation as you will waste more energy spinning your wheels with guys that dont deserve you. Let the man work for it. Let him prove his worth to you. YOU already know your worth. :)
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part of it is the challenge aspect i think, but another part of it is that people just need to pace themselves! you shouldnt give too much away, until you know that person real well. generosity is a good thing, but it should not be applied in the area of romantic relationships, until you are SURE that you can trust it will enhance the relationship. And that usually comes with time.
 
habitualhealth said:
Oh i know. I was kidding. But yeah the appreciation factor seems to lack more in guys. Of course, I don't date girls so that may be a bias opinion.

I tend to go balls to the wall when I meet someone that I deem worthy. I've been single for year(s). <~~Yes damn it, plural. I went through alot (still am) with my daughter's dad (ex). Too many lessons to be learned to jump into a rebound or guy after guy.

When I do meet someone whose application gets approved, I tend to just be me. That does involve all the googly goo mushy stuff. I understand the risk, the vulnerability in that...but I can't imagine ever finding the love of my life without being completely vulnerable. Hopefully, the lessons I've learned in the past with help in identifying the warning signs or red flags sooner than later going forward....if the guy isn't right.


ps-I'm still single. :D
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LOL

I know it all too well. I identify a lot with you.

Try this. The next time you chance to meet a man ask him a simple question, "Are you a giver or a taker?" If he gives you any other answer than an IMMEDIATE "I am a giver.".... move on.

People are either one or the other. There is no inbetween.

You are definitely a giver so you need to find one for yourself. This way there is an endless circle of giving. Any other man will (or woman friend for that matter) will keep taking until the well runs dry. Find a man to give to you now so that you can be full again and reciprocate when you are ready. <---- that is asking A LOT but when a man comes along that deems you worthy (in other words, he recongizes how amazing you are without you having to go to lengths to "prove it") he will give and give and give. His happiness will come from YOUR happiness.

I am not joking when I tell you that there are many men like this out there. You need only go about the business that is your life until he comes along and steps up. :)
 
healother said:
i think those qualities of yours are good, you just have to be careful you are spending them on the right person, and at the right time!
no one should pursue anyone too vigorously, because there is a pace that needs to be followed for a lot of people. and until you know that pace, you have to play it safe.



part of it is the challenge aspect i think, but another part of it is that people just need to pace themselves! you shouldnt give too much away, until you know that person real well. generosity is a good thing, but it should not be applied in the area of romantic relationships, until you are SURE that you can trust it will enhance the relationship. And that usually comes with time.
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You are DEAD ON.

If a man pursues too vigorously it means there is something wrong. ie the guy is a control freak or he is one that is more interested in the hunt than he is in the prize, etc.
 
habitualhealth said:
Bleh, i'm usually the one going all out lookin' like a big bobo in the end for going that obscene length.



But i'm a big ol sap so i'm ok with it.
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no, you're just big and old


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZING!!!!!!!!!
 
BIKINIMOM said:
that is asking A LOT but when a man comes along that deems you worthy (in other words, he recongizes how amazing you are without you having to go to lengths to "prove it") he will give and give and give. His happiness will come from YOUR happiness.
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this is what i have. :)
 
habitualhealth said:
I appreciate the advice in here but have decided that I love me more than anyone else ever could so I should be happily content being single forever.
:worried:
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but your love for yourself plus another mans love for you, = more love!
 
I think we went off topic but I did know this guy that had a live in girlfriend that everyone but him knew was cheating on him (I think he knew but didn't want to face it) But she took him for everything...maxed out his credit cards and his bank account, everything. He finally followed her and when the car stopped he we over and opened the door and she was butt naked on some other guy.
I really kinda felt sorry for the sap.
 
a guy i work with and I went to the mall shopping,he wanted sunglasses and picked out a pair of 325$ shades but told the girl he will only buy them if she gives him her number,she says fine and its the number to a gay bar.

he was pwned to the third degree
 
theoak01 said:
a guy i work with and I went to the mall shopping,he wanted sunglasses and picked out a pair of 325$ shades but told the girl he will only buy them if she gives him her number,she says fine and its the number to a gay bar.

he was pwned to the third degree
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:lmao:
 
Well when my first gf broke up with me and shattered my glass heart, I chopped down a wooden basketball pole, thinking she would be impressed about how distressed and insane I was without her. I also pulled every street sign and stop sign out of the ground while walking to her house.
 
KSHARP01 said:
I think we went off topic but I did know this guy that had a live in girlfriend that everyone but him knew was cheating on him (I think he knew but didn't want to face it) But she took him for everything...maxed out his credit cards and his bank account, everything. He finally followed her and when the car stopped he we over and opened the door and she was butt naked on some other guy.
I really kinda felt sorry for the sap.
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That bitch needs to hang. I've been used, but I wisen up quickly and throw them out on their ass.
 
stilleto said:
this is what i have. :)
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Scary Sherry cost me about 400$ in one month.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
That is not what I am telling you at all.

Be YOU!! Just dont be a doormat. When a woman is too accomodating and pursues the man too vigorously he will ALWAYS take advantage and will NEVER appreciate her.

I spent my whole life being sweet, accomodating, loving, doting and it netted me no good results EVER nor has it netted any female a positive result. It wasnt until I raised the bar and became uncompromising that I began to get better treatment from men. Then it was just a matter of finding the right man FOR ME.

Any time a woman makes it "too easy" for the man SHE LOSES as there is "no challenge". In other words in the back of his mind if it was so easy for me to get her like this (not talking about sex) then ANY man can have her thus decreasing her value to him.

It isnt your fault. It is his, but that is a man's nature nonetheless denying that will only cause you grief and aggrevation as you will waste more energy spinning your wheels with guys that dont deserve you. Let the man work for it. Let him prove his worth to you. YOU already know your worth. :)
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I absolutely disagree with your post. My first marraige was heaven. We were both doting on eachother, accommodating, loving, respectful ... I did whatever I could for him and he did the same. ...
It totally depends upon the people as to how they will mesh with eachother... but from the get go... no games should ever be played... respect should be mutual, a guy shouyld not have to prove his worth, either should a woman. there is no "deserving" again it come down to respect, you either hang with someone who has it for themselves, and you, or you don't. it's really simple actually. People tend to fall in love with illusions, and unrealistic expectations of one another, they want everything to be perfect, BUT what's perfect for you may not be what's perfect for me... If people were more accepting of one another as they really truely are no game would have to be played. anyway... bla bla bla, blabla , blab la..

:)
 
biteme said:
Well when my first gf broke up with me and shattered my glass heart, I chopped down a wooden basketball pole, thinking she would be impressed about how distressed and insane I was without her. I also pulled every street sign and stop sign out of the ground while walking to her house.
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dang, your anger emotions can be strong. mine are kinda like that too. another reason why im kind of scared of a relationship, what would happen if she backstabbed me / brokeup with me, etc.

i've had dreams where im getting angry and the woman that I'm apparently with leaves me as a result. its weird. (especially considering ive never had a g/f)
 
healother said:
dang, your anger emotions can be strong. mine are kinda like that too. another reason why im kind of scared of a relationship, what would happen if she backstabbed me / brokeup with me, etc.

i've had dreams where im getting angry and the woman that I'm apparently with leaves me as a result. its weird. (especially considering ive never had a g/f)
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healother, there are tons of backstabing bitches out there. Believe me, I got involved with my share of them. Guess what? You survive. You move on. You continue until you find someone worth your time and effort, who loves you for who you are.
 
2 of my friends got married. One is already divorced (fater 18 months), the other is on his way.... That easily qualifies as a stupid thing.
 
manny78 said:
2 of my friends got married. One is already divorced (fater 18 months), the other is on his way.... That easily qualifies as a stupid thing.
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The friend in my post on this thread meet a girl, got engaged, married and divorced from her in less than 18 months.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
healother, there are tons of backstabing bitches out there. Believe me, I got involved with my share of them. Guess what? You survive. You move on. You continue until you find someone worth your time and effort, who loves you for who you are.
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emotions after breakup are one thing,

but also, hopefully i wont scare anyone off with my temper before i may possibly get in a relationship with them. i havent gotten mad at anything lately, but last summer i took a baseball bat and went into the park and just started bashing stuff at night (playground equipment and shit). lol, i can get pretty pissed at times, but i doubt to the point that i would hurt anyone. i stopped throwing punches when i was mad, years ago.
 
habitualhealth said:
Oh i know. I was kidding. But yeah the appreciation factor seems to lack more in guys. Of course, I don't date girls so that may be a bias opinion.

I tend to go balls to the wall when I meet someone that I deem worthy. I've been single for year(s). <~~Yes damn it, plural. I went through alot (still am) with my daughter's dad (ex). Too many lessons to be learned to jump into a rebound or guy after guy.

When I do meet someone whose application gets approved, I tend to just be me. That does involve all the googly goo mushy stuff. I understand the risk, the vulnerability in that...but I can't imagine ever finding the love of my life without being completely vulnerable. Hopefully, the lessons I've learned in the past with help in identifying the warning signs or red flags sooner than later going forward....if the guy isn't right.


ps-I'm still single. :D
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please forward said application.....this should include true/false questions, multiple choice, match answer that best describes words or phrases from the left, and 2 essay....
thank you. :supercool
 
BIKINIMOM said:
...without you having to go to lengths to "prove it") he will give and give and give. His happiness will come from YOUR happiness.
)
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Have you been stalking me and taking notes? :jenscat
 
KSHARP01 said:
I think we went off topic but I did know this guy that had a live in girlfriend that everyone but him knew was cheating on him (I think he knew but didn't want to face it) But she took him for everything...maxed out his credit cards and his bank account, everything. He finally followed her and when the car stopped he we over and opened the door and she was butt naked on some other guy.
I really kinda felt sorry for the sap.
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Sounds like my previous sitch except for the maxing out credit cards. I bought her stuff though and helped her move to a new town for a good job - the first night she was there alone she fucked her roommates brother. No kidding. Over the next six months she had sex with five other guys with me travelling 200 miles to see her every other weekend. Plus she denied it as first even after I read her journal and I believed her like a sucker.

Needless to say my trust level is zero at this point.
 
habitualhealth said:
I appreciate the advice in here but have decided that I love me more than anyone else ever could so I should be happily content being single forever.



:worried:
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I hope you keep a lot of batteries then!
 
biteme said:
Well when my first gf broke up with me and shattered my glass heart, I chopped down a wooden basketball pole, thinking she would be impressed about how distressed and insane I was without her. I also pulled every street sign and stop sign out of the ground while walking to her house.
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That's some funny shit man.
 
who gives a fuck what people think ......what you do for someone might seem silly to some but it means alot to the person it was for......
 
healother said:
emotions after breakup are one thing,

but also, hopefully i wont scare anyone off with my temper before i may possibly get in a relationship with them. i havent gotten mad at anything lately, but last summer i took a baseball bat and went into the park and just started bashing stuff at night (playground equipment and shit). lol, i can get pretty pissed at times, but i doubt to the point that i would hurt anyone. i stopped throwing punches when i was mad, years ago.
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You need to learn to focus emotions more. I'm a very emotional person myself. Learn how to meditate and relax. Negative emotions such as fear, anger and hate are not only dangerous to others, they're bad for both your pysical and spiritual health. Learn to relax and visualize the negative energy passing through you and out of you.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
You need to learn to focus emotions more. I'm a very emotional person myself. Learn how to meditate and relax. Negative emotions such as fear, anger and hate are not only dangerous to others, they're bad for both your pysical and spiritual health. Learn to relax and visualize the negative energy passing through you and out of you.
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how does taking a nap work? would that fix it?
 
well I won't go into what I once did for a lady, but like a dumb ass I did it for 13 years
 
CaliGirl said:
I absolutely disagree with your post. My first marraige was heaven. We were both doting on eachother, accommodating, loving, respectful ... I did whatever I could for him and he did the same. ...
It totally depends upon the people as to how they will mesh with eachother... but from the get go... no games should ever be played... respect should be mutual, a guy shouyld not have to prove his worth, either should a woman. there is no "deserving" again it come down to respect, you either hang with someone who has it for themselves, and you, or you don't. it's really simple actually. People tend to fall in love with illusions, and unrealistic expectations of one another, they want everything to be perfect, BUT what's perfect for you may not be what's perfect for me... If people were more accepting of one another as they really truely are no game would have to be played. anyway... bla bla bla, blabla , blab la..

:)
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I think you misunderstand what I am trying to say. I am not talking about playing games AT ALL. It is about human nature. I would never suggest that someone be untrue to themselves or to misrepresent any their nature/desires/motives.

BOTH parties should be "givers" by nature but the woman needs to let the man decide whether or not he will pursue her. A woman can not pursue a man. Sorry, but that will not work out for it is the nature of a man to hunt. If the woman that he is interested in makes herself too available and she is the one to go all out he will become disinterested and either ignore her, get scared off by her or will sit back and take advantage of her kindness while having his chick radar set on "hunt for more elusive punani mode". That is a fact. Any woman that makes herself too easy to win over will NEVER be appreciated by a man.

I am curious. You say "your first marriage". I assume the marriage did not remain intact. I am not casting any judgement at all as I had "the first marriage FROM HELL" and am fully aware that my current marriage needs attention daily, as do ALL good relationships; sort of like tending to a garden. :heart:

One of the most impressive over-the-top things a guy did for me was trust me with his life FIRST. I married him for that. So I guess this "stunt" of his paid off. :)
 
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BIKINIMOM said:
I think you misunderstand what I am trying to say. I am not talking about playing games AT ALL. It is about human nature. I would never suggest that someone be untrue to themselves or to misrepresent any their nature/desires/motives.



BOTH parties should be "givers" by nature but the woman needs to let the man decide whether or not he will pursue her. A woman can not pursue a man. Sorry, but that will not work out for it is the nature of a man to hunt. If the woman that he is interested in makes herself too available and she is the one to go all out he will become disinterested and either ignore her, get scared off by her or will sit back and take advantage of her kindness while having his chick radar set on "hunt for more elusive punani mode". That is a fact. Any woman that makes herself too easy to win over will NEVER be appreciated by a man.


I am curious. You say "your first marriage". I assume the marriage did not remain intact. I am not casting any judgement at all as I had "the first marriage FROM HELL" and am fully aware that my current marriage needs attention daily, as do ALL good relationships; sort of like tending to a garden. :heart:

One of the most impressive over-the-top things a guy did for me was trust me with his life FIRST. I married him for that. So I guess this "stunt" of his paid off. :)
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My first marriage was never from hell.. wow.. NEVER.. it was perfect. It did not end due to lack of respect, lack of love or for any reason that I could control.. that's all I'll say about that.

Our relationship experiences are on totally different sides of the spectrum... I don't see men the way you do at all, and i don't generalize... I guess I should not have replied to your post... my bad.
:) :)
 
CaliGirl said:
My first marriage was never from hell.. wow.. NEVER.. it was perfect. It did not end due to lack of respect, lack of love or for any reason that I could control.. that's all I'll say about that.

Our relationship experiences are on totally different sides of the spectrum... I don't see men the way you do at all, and i don't generalize... I guess I should not have replied to your post... my bad.
:) :)
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Come on now, that isnt what I was saying at all. Life would be BEYOND boring if we all looked at it the same way! New ideas are born out of conflict!! I relish a heathy intelligent debate. Unfortunately on the web it is all too easy to misunderstand because it is near impossible to emote. The best we can do is put smileys which are no adequate replacement for body language or the tone of our voices.

It is always sad when any relationship dies, especially one that was generally a good one. Life is difficult and always seems to have a way of throwing us curveballs that we never could have seen coming, no matter how well prepared we thought that we would be. I get it... and I respect your privacy. :) And wish you only happiness and all things good.

Truth is not absolute. The only reality is our perception.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Come on now, that isnt what I was saying at all. Life would be BEYOND boring if we all looked at it the same way! New ideas are born out of conflict!! I relish a heathy intelligent debate. Unfortunately on the web it is all too easy to misunderstand because it is near impossible to emote. The best we can do is put smileys which are no adequate replacement for body language or the tone of our voices.

It is always sad when any relationship dies, especially one that was generally a good one. Life is difficult and always seems to have a way of throwing us curveballs that we never could have seen coming, no matter how well prepared we thought that we would be. I get it... and I respect your privacy. :) And wish you only happiness and all things good.

Truth is not absolute. The only reality is our perception.
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yes, very true. :)
 
PBR said:
Cali- i just wanted to make a professional comment on your avatar:
GeeeezzzzzzuuusssHchrist... :p
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I second that. Oh my god...

Caligirl is that your ass?
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
You need to learn to focus emotions more. I'm a very emotional person myself. Learn how to meditate and relax. Negative emotions such as fear, anger and hate are not only dangerous to others, they're bad for both your pysical and spiritual health. Learn to relax and visualize the negative energy passing through you and out of you.
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youre right. i definately should do something when it happens. i dont get pissed very often, but when i do, it isnt fun, lol.

it happens a lot when i work on my car (which isnt too often) when im dealing with rusted screws/bolts, and something isnt going right, i tend to make things worse.

meditating sounds smart. i should probably stop and do that every 5 minutes when working on my car, lol.
 
I can totally see just a little bit of labia hanging down below Caligirls ass in that picture... and I keep trying to peak under to get a better view and forget that it is a 2d image. So much having killer 3d accleration on this video card.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
I can totally see just a little bit of labia hanging down below Caligirls ass in that picture... and I keep trying to peak under to get a better view and forget that it is a 2d image. So much having killer 3d accleration on this video card.
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bro no need for all that tech stuff...just turn your monitor upside down...
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
I can totally see just a little bit of labia hanging down below Caligirls ass in that picture... and I keep trying to peak under to get a better view and forget that it is a 2d image. So much having killer 3d accleration on this video card.
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:lmao: I totally know the feeling man. frustrating isnt it?
 
by far the biggest fuckup all the men around me make is to drastically alter their personality to accommodate their new partner/love interest, particularly when the woman is not investing nearly as much in reciprocation.

pretending to be something youre not to a prospective life partner isnt terribly clever.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
by far the biggest fuckup all the men around me make is to drastically alter their personality to accommodate their new partner/love interest, particularly when the woman is not investing nearly as much in reciprocation.

pretending to be something youre not to a prospective life partner isnt terribly clever.
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I concur :) :) :) :)
 
GoldenDelicious said:
by far the biggest fuckup all the men around me make is to drastically alter their personality to accommodate their new partner/love interest, particularly when the woman is not investing nearly as much in reciprocation.

pretending to be something youre not to a prospective life partner isnt terribly clever.
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this is why I refuse to follow those "how to get laid guides" that are online and stuff. I'm going to be myself, and improve upon myself for me and not some dumb chick. If that doesnt get me laid, then so be it.
 
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