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they better start making more of those since he will be back in 2004 for another 4 years...
 
p0ink said:
they better start making more of those since he will be back in 2004 for another 4 years...

I heard a similar refrain in 1990 when Bush Sr. had very high popularity ratings.

OUTCOME: Bill Clinton became President of the United States of America instead.
 
why should I trust you when you don't have history on your side? People vote on the economy----proven fact!!! And, you know that the economy will still be in the tank in 2004 since more and more tax cuts for the very wealthy and big corporations will mean desperate economic times, for all good Americans.
 
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RyanH said:
why should I trust you when you don't have history on your side? People vote on the economy----proven fact!!! And, you know that the economy will still be in the tank in 2004 since more and more tax cuts for the very wealthy and big corporations will mean desperate economic times, for all good Americans.

He is right.

Most americans are idiots.
 
you have got to be kidding me...if tom daschle wasn't such a god damn obstructionist with his head up his ass and if he actually gave a flying shit about the country instead of the interests in his political party, he would help pass bush's economic plan. let me explain this plan once again for you, i will make it as simple as possible. If large corporations have tax breaks and will be able to keep more of *THEIR* money that *THEY* earned, they would have more money to spend, with the more money they have to spend, the more people they are able to higher. the more jobs, the lower the unemployment rate, the lower the unemployment rate, the more money being spread around. it amazes me why you people think large corporations are so evil. face it, without large corporations, this economy would be shit. if these companies werent tax'ed to death (like they are), none of this would even be an issue. what should we keep doing? giving money to the poor and less fortunate? yes, it would be nice if they could have more money, but let's be realistic here, a poor person never highered anyone. i know a poor person has never highered me for a job. But Ryan, i will help you out here. I will give you a few things you can do to help your liberal cause:

1. do *NOT* spend any money on anything whatsoever. keep all of it to yourself

2. if you are unemployed, stay unemployed as long as possible. keep being a burden to the country and keep collecting those checks

3.if you own a business, dont let people buy anything from you.

4. do not higher anyone for your business. more jobs = a bad, evil thing

5. try your hardest to keep the economy in a virtual stand still
 
p0ink said:
you have got to be kidding me...if tom daschle wasn't such a god damn obstructionist with his head up his ass and if he actually gave a flying shit about the country instead of the interests in his political party, he would help pass bush's economic plan. let me explain this plan once again for you, i will make it as simple as possible. If large corporations have tax breaks and will be able to keep more of *THEIR* money that *THEY* earned, they would have more money to spend, with the more money they have to spend, the more people they are able to higher. the more jobs, the lower the unemployment rate, the lower the unemployment rate, the more money being spread around. it amazes me why you people think large corporations are so evil. face it, without large corporations, this economy would be shit. if these companies werent tax'ed to death (like they are), none of this would even be an issue. what should we keep doing? giving money to the poor and less fortunate? yes, it would be nice if they could have more money, but let's be realistic here, a poor person never highered anyone. i know a poor person has never highered me for a job. But Ryan, i will help you out here. I will give you a few things you can do to help your liberal cause:

1. do *NOT* spend any money on anything whatsoever. keep all of it to yourself

2. if you are unemployed, stay unemployed as long as possible. keep being a burden to the country and keep collecting those checks

3.if you own a business, dont let people buy anything from you.

4. do not higher anyone for your business. more jobs = a bad, evil thing

5. try your hardest to keep the economy in a virtual stand still

Sounds like you're familiar with "trickle-down" economics------an economic theory that has already been proven to fail, particulary by former Pres. Reagan.

You like to argue that "the money will somehow work its way down the chain" when, in reality, the money will just go to corporate greed, outrageous CEO salaries, unsafe work conditions, and de minimis pay for hard-working Americans.
 
spentagn said:


Trust them with their own money? Or with guns?

I trust my fellow Americans to uphold their responsibilities to all Americans, which, does include paying taxes and practicing safe gun use.

There is a price to pay for living in one of the leading countries in the world.
 
RyanH said:


I trust my fellow Americans to uphold their responsibilities to all Americans, which, does include paying taxes and practicing safe gun use.

There is a price to pay for living in one of the leading countries in the world.

Yes, and that price to me is upholding and protecting the Constitution. I pay my share when I purchase products in this country. Gov.org has no right to take one penny from my income without my permission.

This country is going to shit. There will be a revolution in the next 100 years. I hope to be alive when this times come. I await the day to kill corrupt government officials.

Revenge is needed in this country. WACO and Ruby Ridge are not acceptable and one day gov.org will pay.
 
RyanH said:


I trust my fellow Americans to uphold their responsibilities to all Americans, which, does include paying taxes and practicing safe gun use.

There is a price to pay for living in one of the leading countries in the world.

Nice attempt at weaseling out of this one.
 
p0ink said:
ryan, who highers people? people with money or people without?

depends on who's doing the hiring. Several corporations do not believe in giving reasonable salary increases unless the federal goverment compels them to do so with minimum wage legislation.

The government has to ensure that companies are doing what is "right" for all of our fellow Americans.

Don't the American people deserve at least that much? We both know they do.
 
bo,

lets be fair here. we should give money to people that don't earn it. it is just the right thing to do. it makes me feel soooo good to give the money that i work my ass off for to some piece of shit who doesnt work or some whore that has 5 children with just as many different fathers. bo, i dont think anyone should have more than another person, that just isn't fair. it just isnt right. we should follow fantastic countries like cuba, where they set such a good example of how working so hard and owning nothing works so well.
 
RyanH said:


depends on who's doing the hiring. Several corporations do not believe in giving reasonable salary increases unless the federal goverment compels them to do so with minimum wage legislation.

Sorry, minimum wage legislation do not affect salaries. They affect wage rates. And the government forces businesses to pay minimum wages. "Compel" is the wrong verb.

RyanH said:

The government has to ensure that companies are doing what is "right" for all of our fellow Americans.

Don't the American people deserve at least that much? We both know they do.

The government consists of a bureaucratic elite. Hardly a government "of the people." How the hell do they know what's "right for all of our fellow Americans?"
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


Yes, and that price to me is upholding and protecting the Constitution. I pay my share when I purchase products in this country. Gov.org has no right to take one penny from my income without my permission.

This country is going to shit. There will be a revolution in the next 100 years. I hope to be alive when this times come. I await the day to kill corrupt government officials.

Revenge is needed in this country. WACO and Ruby Ridge are not acceptable and one day gov.org will pay.

Well many things aren't fair. It's not fair that our current President was elected by the radical wing of the United States Supreme Court. Nor is it fair, that 3 thousand brave-innocent Americans lost their lives tragically on September 11, 2001. Nor, is it fair that African-Americans have had to endure second-class citizenship in America for centuries.

But, somehow Americans usually come to their senses....and, in the end, we eventually will do what is right. People will someday do what is right----and realize that Janet Reno was a successful Attorney General for 8 years in our great nation.
 
ryan, find me the part in the constitution that says government should be watching businesses and making sure they are fair. if it is in the constitution, i will have no quams with it. but if it isn't (which i know it's not), then i will still be vehemently against it.
 
RyanH said:

People will someday do what is right----and realize that Janet Reno was a successful Attorney General for 8 years in our great nation.

i dont know about a great attorney general, but she sure was great when it came to having religious people barbequed alive.
 
RyanH said:


Well many things aren't fair. It's not fair that our current President was elected by the radical wing of the United States Supreme Court. Nor is it fair, that 3 thousand brave-innocent Americans lost their lives tragically on September 11, 2001. Nor, is it fair that African-Americans have had to endure second-class citizenship in America for centuries.

But, somehow Americans usually come to their senses....and, in the end, we eventually will do what is right. People will someday do what is right----and realize that Janet Reno was a successful Attorney General for 8 years in our great nation.

Where's that little fiddle-playing smiley when you need him?
 
ryan, i dont know if fairness had anything to do with the sept 11th attacks, i think it had something to do with clintons complete incompetence. do you want me to give you the URL for the thread of how clinton undermined national security?
 
spentagn said:


Sorry, minimum wage legislation do not affect salaries. They affect wage rates. And the government forces businesses to pay minimum wages. "Compel" is the wrong verb.


Compel is not the wrong word. Please consult your nearest dictionary. According to the "American Heritage" dictionary, compel means " to force, to drive.

Hence, I am correct and you Spentagn------are wrong.

Sorry.:)

Ryan.

maybe next time.
 
p0ink said:
ryan, find me the part in the constitution that says government should be watching businesses and making sure they are fair. if it is in the constitution, i will have no quams with it. but if it isn't (which i know it's not), then i will still be vehemently against it.

under the Commerce Clause to the United States Constitution the federal government has a VERY broad range of powers, such as the power to regulate safety conditions and even the salaries of all American citizens.
 
Sorry. I meant to suggest 'compel' was a euphemism for what really happens. Want to try arguing substance now?
 
p0ink said:
ryan, i dont know if fairness had anything to do with the sept 11th attacks, i think it had something to do with clintons complete incompetence. do you want me to give you the URL for the thread of how clinton undermined national security?

I've already glanced at that "right-wing" propaganda, and I'm disappointed that you even posted it.
 
RyanH said:


under the Commerce Clause to the United States Constitution the federal government has a VERY broad range of powers, such as the power to regulate safety conditions and even the salaries of all American citizens.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. -Tenth Amendment
 
This is entertaining:FRlol:
BTW Ryan I thought it was the context in which you chose to use that verb that was incorrect.
 
spentagn said:


The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. -Tenth Amendment

Exactly, and the power to legislate under the Commerce Clause is reserved to the federal government. States could always raise the bar on minimum wage, but they could never lower it...To do, would be usurping the powers of the Federal government.
 
RyanH said:


Exactly, and the power to legislate under the Commerce Clause is reserved to the federal government. States could always raise the bar on minimum wage, but they could never lower it...To do, would be usurping the powers of the Federal government.

And the Federal Government, if I'm not mistaken, only regulates interstate commerce, correct?
 
RyanH said:


under the Commerce Clause to the United States Constitution the federal government has a VERY broad range of powers, such as the power to regulate safety conditions and even the salaries of all American citizens.

the constitution was originally written to limit the amount of power the federal government had. the tenth amendment confirms this by declaring that those powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the states or to the people. this is the key right here ryan, it isnt up to the federal goverment to do such things.
 
spentagn said:
That being said, the states have a broader range of powers than the Federal Government.

Yes, generally. But, if the Federal governement decides it wants to take over a certain power, it's really not that hard to do.

Any savvy legislator can do ingenious things under the guise of the Commerce Clause.....Most all Federal legislation is passed under the auspices of the Commerce Clause.

But, of course, the radical Chief Justice, William Rhenquist, has been trying to change all that with decisions support big polluters and big corporations at the expense of the American people.

But, Rhenquist was a Nixon appointee, so I'm not surprised.
 
RyanH said:

But, of course, the radical Chief Justice, William Rhenquist, has been trying to change all that with decisions support big polluters and big corporations at the expense of the American people.

But, Rhenquist was a Nixon appointee, so I'm not surprised.

ryan, he is trying to do the job he was appointed to do...uphold the constitution...
 
So Rhenquist is trying to uphold the Constitution, and not allow loopholes in the Commerce Act, and election fraud, to be exploited. What a horrible person :rolleyes:
 
Spentagn, please tell us how much state economic activity is not tied to national commerce? Exactly, very little.

Thus, the federal government has broad, far-reaching powers under the Commerce Clause. For example, the securities law were passed under the interstate commerce clause and covers even state-wide companies, and not just national corporations.
 
RyanH said:
Spentagn, please tell us how much state economic activity is not tied to national commerce? Exactly, very little.

Thus, the federal government has broad, far-reaching powers under the Commerce Clause. For example, the securities law were passed under the interstate commerce clause and covers even state-wide companies, and not just national corporations.

Well since all significant economic indicators are aggregately reported, it's a little difficult to find such info on a short notice. But thanks for letting me reply before attempting to answer your own question.
 
p0ink said:


ryan, he is trying to do the job he was appointed to do...uphold the constitution...

Sure. He's only assisted in destroying our nation's environment, has overthrown all legal precedent to appoint a President, and has attempted to oppress the right to privacy for American women.

A less than stellar job.
 
RyanH said:


Sure. He's only assisted in destroying our nation's environment, has overthrown all legal precedent to appoint a President, and has attempted to oppress the right to privacy for American women.

A less than stellar job.

Do you have the Guide to Liberalism, Socialism, and Headupyourownassism memorized, or do you just have a copy in front of you at all times?
 
ryan, if there are such poor working conditions, why dont these people just contact services like OSHA? i think there is already enough federal regulation, how much more do you seriously want?

ryan, i can't see why you would want the government involved in almost every aspect of your life. do you really hate freedom that much?
 
spentagn said:


Do you have the Guide to Liberalism, Socialism, and Headupyourownassism memorized, or do you just have a copy in front of you at all times?

You're running from the truth again, Spentagn.:confused:

I thought you were passed that point in your life.
 
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RyanH said:


You're running from the truth again, Spentagn.:confused:

I thought you were passed that point in your life.

If the truth in your eyes is continuously spouting platform propaganda, I'll avoid it at all costs.
 
RyanH said:


Sure. He's only assisted in destroying our nation's environment, has overthrown all legal precedent to appoint a President, and has attempted to oppress the right to privacy for American women.

A less than stellar job.

ryan, i remember several articles that confirmed president bush really did win the election. i don't see how you can still argue that. oh yeah, you will say gore had more overall votes nationwide...well i hate to tell you, that doesnt mean a damn thing, because you know thats not how elections work...but you liberals will always try to change and manipulate things to argue your 'point'
 
p0ink said:

ryan, i can't see why you would want the government involved in almost every aspect of your life. do you really hate freedom that much?

If it weren't for freedom and capitalism, Ryan might actually have to pay for something (college) on his own for a change. It's easy to be liberal with other peoples' money.
 
RyanH said:


Sure. He's only assisted in destroying our nation's environment, has overthrown all legal precedent to appoint a President, and has attempted to oppress the right to privacy for American women.

A less than stellar job.

Excellant or perhaps satisfactory, less than stellar leaves alot open. :goof:
 
give him a few years in the real world whe is out making money on his own...maybe common sense will kick in :)
 
p0ink said:


ryan, i remember several articles that confirmed president bush really did win the election. i don't see how you can still argue that. oh yeah, you will say gore had more overall votes nationwide...well i hate to tell you, that doesnt mean a damn thing, because you know thats not how elections work...but you liberals will always try to change and manipulate things to argue your 'point'

1) Exit polls showed Gore won, 2) the New York Times in a study also concluded that if illegal overseas Republican ballots had been thrown out (just as the Democratic overseas ballots were thrown out), then Vice-President Gore would have won, not Governor Bush of Texas, 3) the butterfly ballot resulted in Presidential Candidate Patrick Buchannan getting votes that were intended for Vice-President Gore, and finally, had all undervotes been counted, state-wide, Vice-President Gore would be Pres. Gore today.

And, let's not forget, the hijacking of the election by the radical wing of the United States Supreme Court.
 
p0ink said:
give him a few years in the real world whe is out making money on his own...maybe common sense will kick in :)

First, I've made plenty of money on my own. For example, I work hard watching my stocks in the market.
 
illegal overseas ballots? why would you not want to count the votes of people that are actually serving this country? oh yeah, it's because the majority of them are republican. yes, maybe gore would have won if voting wasnt such a hard, confusing task. it must have been some right-winged conspiracy to make voting so difficult and confusing for these poor souls. :rolleyes:
 
spentagn said:


If it weren't for freedom and capitalism, Ryan might actually have to pay for something (college) on his own for a change. It's easy to be liberal with other peoples' money.

I pay for plenty of things on my own. But Spentagn, there you go pulling your customary tactic---when the facts aren't on your side, you resort to off topic matters....i.e. my personal life, which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
 
RyanH said:


First, I've made plenty of money on my own. For example, I work hard watching my stocks in the market.

Yet free-market capitalism is horrible. Who bought the stocks? If you, where did you get the money? Just curious.
 
RyanH said:


1) Exit polls showed Gore won, 2) the New York Times in a study also concluded that if illegal overseas Republican ballots had been thrown out (just as the Democratic overseas ballots were thrown out), then Vice-President Gore would have won, not Governor Bush of Texas, 3) the butterfly ballot resulted in Presidential Candidate Patrick Buchannan getting votes that were intended for Vice-President Gore, and finally, had all undervotes been counted, state-wide, Vice-President Gore would be Pres. Gore today.

And, let's not forget, the hijacking of the election by the radical wing of the United States Supreme Court.

I'm military over seas. I didn't get my voting ballot until after the election. I smell a Leftist conspiracy!:D
 
RyanH said:


I pay for plenty of things on my own. But Spentagn, there you go pulling your customary tactic---when the facts aren't on your side, you resort to off topic matters....i.e. my personal life, which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

If you consider the original topic showing the resemblances of your President and monkeys, perhaps it'd be more fitting to post pictures of jackasses next to your own. When you make it known how financially blessed you've been, your personal matters are relevant when you suggest limiting my potential at becoming so.
 
minion said:


I'm military over seas. I didn't get my voting ballot until after the election. I smell a Leftist conspiracy!:D

You're in the military, the libs wouldn't have wanted your vote to count, anyways.
 
spentagn said:


Yet free-market capitalism is horrible. Who bought the stocks? If you, where did you get the money? Just curious.

Sorry Spentagn, but I will not digress from the topic at hand.

Discipline is a virtue.
 
And look at the original topic, you disciplinarian. I will not allow this to turn into a road-house side show.
 
spentagn said:


If you consider the original topic showing the resemblances of your President and monkeys, perhaps it'd be more fitting to post pictures of jackasses next to your own. When you make it known how financially blessed you've been, your personal matters are relevant when you suggest limiting my potential at becoming so.

Please point to where I've ever said that I'm "financially blessed."
 
RyanH said:


Please point to where I've ever said that I'm "financially blessed."

Call it what you will, but having a trust, or daddy, or whatever, pay for your private education is being blessed. But please, don't deviate from the topic at hand.
 
RyanH said:


I pay for plenty of things on my own. But Spentagn, there you go pulling your customary tactic---when the facts aren't on your side, you resort to off topic matters....i.e. my personal life, which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Ones personal life has alot to do with the topic. You see most people base their fundametal ideals by what they have learned from their personal life.

For example.. A young boy is kept in the house all of his life. He has learned everything he knows from a book. By the time he reaches the age of 25 he has mastered all he has studied. But, as you know there are 2 sides to every coin. So this overaged boy of 25 enters the world with vast knowlege of only the backside of the coin. On certain topics this boy can debate the fact as best he has learned. That does not always make him right. For his parents have witheld an extreme amount of knowlege from him by giving him the shelter of a infant child.

Not taking away from the knowlege that this boy has learned... but, this is the primary reason for this boys views and outlook on life.
 
who needs a military? all the do is promote agression and violence. apparently we dont according to lliberals...just look much they downsized the armed forces...another wonderful thing clinton did.... :rolleyes:
 
RyanH said:


well that depends on what the definition of "is" is.:D

yes, blowjobs and being fucked with a cigar is not anything sexual...it's just like shaking someone's hand
 
p0ink said:
who needs a military? all the do is promote agression and violence. apparently we dont according to lliberals...just look much they downsized the armed forces...another wonderful thing clinton did.... :rolleyes:

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton when awakening late?

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton when another car is traveling slow in front of you?

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton for that B you scored in History in 1972?

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton for forgetting to turn the stove off?

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton for your wrinkled shirt?

Come on, pOink, you can't go on blaming former Pres. Clinton forever...for all unfortunate circumstances.
 
RyanH said:


Please point to where I've ever said that I'm "financially blessed."

SURE THING!!!!!!


RyanH said:

I'm thinking of trading for the new Lexus four door coupe after 11/2 into the lease.

But loved my Mercedes, nothing drives or has the style that German Cars have.

RyanH said:

I've owned two BMW's, a Mercedes, and Infiniti, and my parents own an ACURA, my favorite handsdown: ACURA.

Honda/Acura has always had their shit together. Both BMW's I owned sucked, paid alot of money for two very troublesome cars.
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RyanH said:

I would rather have the security and freedom that having money in the bank brings as opposed to having another new Mercedes.....My dad bought me my current mercedes, soon I will be trading it in for a reasonably priced car. In the meantime, I'll bank the extra money I was spending on the car payment for the mercedes.

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Let me know if you want more!!!!
;) ;)
 
dballer said:


SURE THING!!!!!!









Let me know if you want more!!!!
;) ;)

Nice, although unsuccessful attempt at proving I am "financially blessed." Please do more research and indicate where I have ever said I am "financially blessed."
 
RyanH said:


Nice, although unsuccessful attempt at proving I am "financially blessed." Please do more research and indicate where I have ever said I am "financially blessed."

How doesn't that prove that you are financially blessed? How many college students have had such shitty rides as you?
 
Maybe not in those words.. but your Dad picking up the tab on those cars spells it out.
BTW.. I am not down on you for that. I wish my old man could sport me a car like that.
 
Ladies and Gentlemen, all D-baller has done has proven that I've owned a wide variety of cars. D-baller has still yet to prove that I've ever said I was "financially blessed"
 
RyanH said:


Do you also blame Pres. Clinton when awakening late?

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton when another car is traveling slow in front of you?

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton for that B you scored in History in 1972?

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton for forgetting to turn the stove off?

Do you also blame Pres. Clinton for your wrinkled shirt?

Come on, pOink, you can't go on blaming former Pres. Clinton forever...for all unfortunate circumstances.

no, i blame president clinton for his mistakes which cost thousands of people their lives. i blame president clinton for making a mockery of the presidency. i blame president clinton for being a disgrace to the job of president. i blame president clinton on our nations lack of national security. i blame president clinton for complete lack of competence overall.
 
Noone ever said you claimed to be "financially blessed." Read my post. I just pointed out "you make it known how financially blessed you've been." There's a difference. :)
 
You think owning a Mercedes, implies that one is rich? I know several hard-working, middle-class American citizens who, too, enjoy or have enjoyed the pleasures affiliated with above-average automobiles.

Any toy can be obtained with the right budget.
 
RyanH said:
You think owning a Mercedes, implies that one is rich? I know several hard-working, middle-class American citizens who, too, enjoy or have enjoyed the pleasures affiliated with above-average automobiles.

Any toy can be obtained with the right budget.

Yeah, but you didn't pay for it, daddy or trust did. That's being blessed.
 
strongchick said:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Just back from the gym....have yet to read every single post....thank you the portrait of a dumbass!!!!

let the irrationality and nonsense begin...
 
spentagn said:
Noone ever said you claimed to be "financially blessed." Read my post. I just pointed out "you make it known how financially blessed you've been." There's a difference. :)

I have never said that I'm "financially blessed" or "wealthy'

You are interpreting that to be the situation without any real relevant data.
 
RyanH said:
Ladies and Gentlemen, all D-baller has done has proven that I've owned a wide variety of cars. D-baller has still yet to prove that I've ever said I was "financially blessed"

Don't patronize, you've been caught have some dignity. :fro:
 
RyanH said:


I have never said that I'm "financially blessed" or "wealthy'

You are interpreting that to be the situation without any real relevant data.

I have never read nor heard you say that. But Clinton got a bj from an intern, and you have a free ride to college, as well as some free rides. Sugar coat it if you want, but why bother?
 
Someday, I will convince some of you to find follow my righteous lead and become a "moderate centrist with a liberal bent.'
 
RyanH said:
Someday, I will convince some of you to find follow my righteous lead and become a "moderate centrist with a liberal bent.'

ryan, you would have to be holding a gun to my head...but you liberals hate guns :)
 
p0ink said:


ryan, you would have to be holding a gun to my head...but you liberals hate guns :)

Wrong. I don't hate guns. Guns are fine when they are 1) available to only those worthy of using one, and 2) when their use, make, and distribution is subject to the approval of federal regulations.
 
RyanH said:


Wrong. I don't hate guns. Guns are fine when they are 1) available to only those worthy of using one, and 2) when their use, make, and distribution is subject to the approval of federal regulations.

define worthy of using one. do you mean those who are employed by various branches of the government?
 
RyanH said:


Wrong. I don't hate guns. Guns are fine when they are 1) available to only those worthy of using one, and 2) when their use, make, and distribution is subject to the approval of federal regulations.

So you are happy Bush is in office
 
p0ink said:


define worthy of using one. do you mean those who are employed by various branches of the government?

Exclusions would include children, those with a violent criminal history, the mentally disturbed, and those un-trained in how to use a gun.

Our nation's safety is at stake, that means sacrifice, which, in turn, means making it very difficult to own a gun. Sacrifice is an American tradition, I'll make that sacrifice most any time.
 
RyanH said:


Exclusions would include children, those with a violent criminal history, the mentally disturbed, and those un-trained in how to use a gun.

Our nation's safety is at stake, that means sacrifice, which, in turn, means making it very difficult to own a gun. Sacrifice is an American tradition, I'll make that sacrifice most any time.

Yea, too bad the only people sacraficing would be law-abiding citizens. All you proposed laws and regulation will do zero to prevent a criminal from getting a gun. So now we have people waiting to get guns thus putting their safety at risk.
 
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