strength loss

[tboy72]

im currently running btg var for a month now.....each weak i become stronger then the last, its amazing....i was wondering how much strength im going to loose after i stop in another six weeks??
also is the strength going to keep getting steadily better for the next 6 weeks??
and what kind of pct should i do?
i didnt think i was going to have to do any, but i guess i am shutting down to a degree (according to everyone)
thanks

 

[tboy72]

maybe i should have called the thread var pct?

 

[CanadianBro]

Anavar is quite the amazing steroid.

You will actually lose very little strength post Anavar. (If you keep lifting, eating and resting).

I personally never do PCT however I have a very easy time recovering from an Ox only cycle.

It really is not necessary however it can't hurt.

 

[tboy72]

no problems with sex drive bro? do dyou loose a lot of vascularity? what wre some of your results?
and thanka again bro!

 

[CanadianBro]

I seem to always have problems with
sexual performance while on cycle.
(Just can't get 100% erections while on).

No problem with sex drive or orgasms.
Just with the erection size and firmness.

As far as vascularity, I think vascularity
has to do more with your bodyfat as
opposed to anabolics.

Whenever I get under 8% BF, I tend to
have great vascularity. Doesn't matter
which drug I am using at that time.

My very first cycle (8 years ago) was
Anavar Only and I gained around 8
pounds and kept it all.

Keep in mind I had trained for 7 years
prior to cycling and has reached my
genetic potential so there was not much
available in terms of mass. (I went from
212lbs - 7% BF to 220lbs - 7% BF)

Good luck with the remainder of your
cycle.

 

[tboy72]

good shit!!!! thanks

 

[scorpion_X]

From my experience:

The strength gains you are experiencing should plateau towards the end of your cycle. It's a law of diminishing returns.

I finished a cycle (30mg / day for 10 weeks) in December and have basically kept all the strength gains to date.

I gained 13 lean pounds my first cycle and have kept all.

PCT can be very simple:
Natural supplements: tribulus, avena sativa, ZMA for a couple weeks

You could consider using clen post cycle for 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off. Clen can have an anticatabolic effect at the same time as helping to burn some extra fat.

 

[tboy72]

dam!!!!!i didnt want them tp plateau......how many weeks in does that happen....and thats great that you kept it...im sooooo psyched im loving the hell outta this...my results are far better then i expected

 

[juve]

The strength gains you are experiencing should plateau towards the end of your cycle. It's a law of diminishing returns.

That's not the law of diminishing returns, wtf are you talking about?

 

[tboy72]

tell me the laws of diminishing returns?

 

[HAYEZ]

what kind of strength gains have you got from it?just name off a few exercises that have improved?bench curls lats ex squats etc...im about to do my first also and i wsa wondering what stength to expect!!!!!

 

[tboy72]

my strength has increased major!!!! almost too good to believe...i would be sceptical if someone told me these results, but oh well...
first off my chest has always sucked! bad genetics, i went from a max of 245 to 295 in a month! most of it came the last two weeks added around 15 -20lbs a week the last two skull crushers went from 90 max once or twice to 120 8 x's. my back has always been a strong point for me...but i went from 210 to
(it seems as much a s i want now)....havent realy maxed lats...
i know im gonna probably gonna get flamed for these results, but what ever...im not here to impress anyone but myself....
and this is my first gear of any type and i seem to have taken well to var...i added creatine and it helps alot with strength! my diet is super clean cardio 4-5x' a week and gained at least 4 lbs while droppin lots of bf....
so come on let me have it.....has anyone else had gains like this?

 

[genarr3]

Well no one has seemed to ask, so I will. How much are you taking? Anavar can and will suppress natural test production. The more you take the more it suppresses.

So how much are you taking and how long are you planning on taking it for?

 

[tboy72]

ive read it does supress to a degree, but far less then anything else i'v read or heard about....right now im only taking 25 mgs of btg a day...im getting some paper this week so the last 10 weeks will be at 40 mgs.

 

[HAYEZ]

genarr3 quick question....im in a confusion .....if you had the choice to do var 50mg ed for 8 weeks or 10 weeks do you thin the money spent on the extra 2 weeks is worth it?or do you think all the muscle that will be put on would have already been put on in the 8 weeks??thanks

 

[tboy72]

id do it 10 for sure....but thats me...i hear theres a plateua but i havent reached it if i reach it in 6 then 8 weeks would do i guess...but right now i plan on 6......
oh wait that was for genarr

 

[HAYEZ]

no prob replying open to all suggestions...thanks and i hope i get some good gains like that you seem to be doing well

 

[scorpion_X]

Tboy - very impressive gains on your lifts - congrats!

As for diminishing returns - let me explain it like this:

You have experienced a tremendous increase in a short amount of time - say 50 lbs on your bench press in a month.

Does this mean you will now add 50 lbs every month to your bench press using 25 mg / day anavar? - the answer is an obvious no. Your gains will come slower and slower as you approach your new plateau.

If you were to extend your cycle to 32 weeks from 8 weeks would you quadruple your gains? Again the answer is no.

If you double your dose to 50 mg / day would you double your gains? No again.

You will see some additional gains from longer times and higher doses but not directly proportional to the increased time and/or dose.

Ask any of the pro body-builders with mature physiques what their gains are year over year (very minimal) despite the large quantities of gear they consume.

 

[tboy72]

oh i got ya....wouldnt that be great though...double does double rsults...but it makes sence.....
i dont know if my status alows me to give karma...but if i can you got it!