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I have no idea what stocks they are - haven't looked at them.

This is new code that so far is even better than my previous code.
 
NoDaddyNo said:
I have no idea what stocks they are - haven't looked at them.

This is new code that so far is even better than my previous code.

And man, this is so great over here.

I know when I run over to the stock boards and post about training, they eat it up.
 
FatRat said:
Give me some LSE numbers then we'll talk... :)

In due time :)

This current code is far less processor intensive, so I can likely get that done sooner.

I've been trading it on wealth-lab.com and a few other game sorts of things and have made over $1000 a day (but that is using their $100K and dividing it so that each of the 4 trades made get ~$25K).

Seriously FatRat - keep on me about it and I should be able to set something up - maybe as soon as this weekend (although more likely next weekend).
Especially if you can setup other people that would be interested in it. Free for two weeks and then start paying. :)
 
NoDaddyNo said:
Seriously FatRat - keep on me about it and I should be able to set something up - maybe as soon as this weekend (although more likely next weekend).
Especially if you can setup other people that would be interested in it. Free for two weeks and then start paying. :)

I have shown your site to a couple of people who are interested but are sceptical without seeing some results. One of these people is a contractor who I work with who is obviously paid too much as he plays for real with large amounts, so he would be a good test. Let me know how things go…
 
FatRat said:


I have shown your site to a couple of people who are interested but are sceptical without seeing some results. One of these people is a contractor who I work with who is obviously paid too much as he plays for real with large amounts, so he would be a good test. Let me know how things go…

I have a meeting at 11 (it is 10 here now) and I am not sure how busy my day will be - but I will try for a bit to get some data set aside.

So LSE data right? For my old code it had to have over 6 years of data and ideally have over 250K avg volume over 60 trading days.
But this new code only needs about 6 months of data and 100K avg vol.

I will see if I can write some code to pull down some LSE data and set that aside - then I can point this code at that and setup a demo for you and your friends.
 
NoDaddyNo said:
Short CHUX
Short ODP
Short IOM
Long GXP

Short CHUX @ $15.06
Short ODP @ 14.31
Short IOM @ 6.84
Long GXP @ 31.11

you might have trouble shorting CHUX because almost 30% of the float in out on loan....meaning its heavily shorted as is. most brokers won't be able to barrow it to short. its average loan rate is a negative 1/2
 
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OXANDRIN said:


Short CHUX @ $15.06
Short ODP @ 14.31
Short IOM @ 6.84
Long GXP @ 31.11

you might have trouble shorting CHUX because almost 30% of the float in out on loan....meaning its heavily shorted as is. most brokers won't be able to barrow it to short. its average loan rate is a negative 1/2

Yeah, my code doesn't look at any of that - it just spits out what will go down, what will go up, and what to avoid.

It gives a strength signal with it as well - I have it setup to only give me the very confident ones, and then out of those I look at an even more narrow range.
 
The Nature Boy said:


Cannabilistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers

It frightens me why you know that. It also frightens me that I know it. It frightens me even more to know that Daniel Stern and John Goodman starred in it.
 
FatRat said:


Lol, good point! How can the code allow for unexpected employment data?

It doesn't - although I have code that is reading the news and generating a database of that - but it needs a lot of data before it is of any good.
Use NLP (natural language processing - which is essentially a glorified Markov Matrix) to analyze the news and categorize it as "good" "bad" or "ignore" and then feed that in with extra market data to the calculation.

But since there is an interface of a human between the code output and the actual sales, that would leave the commit option resting on the shoulders of said human.

As for whether today is any good or not, the time span doesn't really concern me - within a week all of these will have been right. From what I have observed, they are usually right during the first 4 hours if it is not a Friday, and if earnings reports having just been released.
Those that aren't right in the first 4 hours most usually follow up by the end of the day, and those that don't so far have all made money within the next day or so.

FatRat - do you know of a place where I can get a list of all of the tickers on the LSE? That would make my data collection a lot easier.
 
I found a list of 1676 LSE stocks. Not sure how many they have on their exchange, but this will do for now - I can add more later if there are specific ones people want.
I should be able to have these in the database by the end of the day, which means it will have prediction code for Monday morning.

What time on the East Coast of the US does the LSE open and close?
 
NDN's little system consists of 5 tin cans labeled with random stocks picked for the day. A monkey is then given an apple and then places that apple in what usually amounts to being the shiniest of the tin cans. This tin can signals a buy, the rest are shorts. The monkey is given a treat every time he is right and thrown against a spiked wall by Brett Farvirruh when he is wrong. NDN likes to use a lot of big words like "neural network" and "algorithm," but it's really a monkey driven system. Sometimes his fiancee substitutes for the monkey when it is not feeling well.
 
supersizeme is absolutely correct - I actually own the domains www.monkeydaytrader.com and www.piratedaytrader.com and will be putting up content shortly.

FatRat - that is excellent. I will write a script to pull all of those down and then merge them into the data that I have and then go and grab all the trade data for them.

So the US East Coast is 5 hours behind London? I'm clueless on these things.
 
NoDaddyNo said:
So the US East Coast is 5 hours behind London? I'm clueless on these things.

If anyone wants to confirm this id be greatful as im going off the converter on my phone (very high tech at this end)
 
The only reason I care when the LSE opens and closes in East Coast time is that my server sits in PA and it needs to know when to do updates - get EOD data after the market closes and give out predictions before market open and the like.

As I see it, I will put in all the data, run the prediction code and see what comes out. I will look for comonalities in the ones that are right and then focus the dataset down to those that are more likely to allow successful trading.

For instance, in the States, the stocks need at least 100K of avg volume over the past 60 days and it helps if they have been around awhile.
I would imagine that it is going to be pretty much the same for the LSE, I just don't know what level the avg volume will need there - it has to be high enough that you could actually get in and out without having too much of an effect on the stock.
Easy to do on MSFT when they trade millions everyday, hard to do on something that has 1000 shares traded everyday.
 
As you say, I cant see the LSE being much different to the US. Thanks for your effort on this NoDaddyNo
 
FatRat said:
As you say, I cant see the LSE being much different to the US. Thanks for your effort on this NoDaddyNo

Effort? It is 100% greed :)

Gordon Gecko is my hero. Greed is good.

From what I have seen in the past, assuming that there are less than 4000 stocks that it is going to look up info on, it will take me about an hour to get everything in place.
Another hour to setup the scripts and database correctly to be isolated from the US code.
And from there out it should be good to go.

Now I just need to finish my pizza and get started on it.
 
Feel free to check on how those other stocks did - I believe two did quite well the first day, and two didn't - likely to complete either today or tomorrow then.

As for today:
Long NCEH
Long BVEW
Long RA

Short EME
Short AOS
Short PDG

And FatRat, you have a PM about the LSE data and a page that you and your friends can watch.
 
Thanks NDN, looks good, I will be following them this week to see how things go (looks good today already for the longs I have checked)
 
FatRat said:
Thanks NDN, looks good, I will be following them this week to see how things go (looks good today already for the longs I have checked)

The top of the screen will have the date that they are predicting for. (MM/DD/YYYY)
If you are looking at that page before the market opens and you see the date isn't "today" - then let me know. I'm pretty sure the time difference is accounted for correctly - but if it isn't, I'll adjust it.
 
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