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If I had money...would you advise investment in these low price stocks at this time?
Stock Buffs: Lucent and Nextel....
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HappyScrappy
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I vote yes on Lucent, no on Nextel.
and maybe on Nortel.
and maybe on Nortel.
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HappyScrappy
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Cisco is always a good one - although there is a new router coming out that claims to make them obsolete, but they all say that.
this one looks at what is being sent and directs it accordingly, even allowing a company on the hardware level to disallow mp3s and such to be downloaded and thereby wasting bandwidth.
good for companies, sucks for the employees
this one looks at what is being sent and directs it accordingly, even allowing a company on the hardware level to disallow mp3s and such to be downloaded and thereby wasting bandwidth.
good for companies, sucks for the employees
talonracer
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Well I work for Agere which just spun off from Lucent............the stock is so damn cheap why not buy it?? Besides they may be getting bought out........
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HappyScrappy
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wodin - I believe that your avatar is from the hitchhiker's guid to the galaxy (Was it 42 or 43 that was the answer?).
that guy just died recently of ... I think it was cancer.
that guy just died recently of ... I think it was cancer.
bgdaddysmooth
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I hate to tell you guys, but tech stocks are dead. Communications was hot but I think they're simmering off a bit. Look to the energy sector in the next couple years. I'm telling ya, it's gonna be fucking huge!
I would hold off on Lucent.
They have made the kind of mistakes that signal a company's death.
Little know fact: they were selling SONET hardware (telecom shit) for $10,000 per unit when they were worth roughly $100. Markups are expected but there is a limit to what is acceptable.
It hasn;t helped them regain credibility. They have actualy had to come out and deny bankruptcy warnings.
Nextel I like because wireless is only beginning....they are a bet for an acquisition down the line.
Even if Cisco stopped making routers, there is so much Cisco hardware out there that they'd be here forever.
Also, if a router works well, you don;t replace it because something alittle better comes out....it isn't economically justifiable for most businesses.
Happy -
Cisco's hardware can screeen applications and filter them accordingly. That's no breakthrough. Are you talking about something from Juniper or Ciena?
They have made the kind of mistakes that signal a company's death.
Little know fact: they were selling SONET hardware (telecom shit) for $10,000 per unit when they were worth roughly $100. Markups are expected but there is a limit to what is acceptable.
It hasn;t helped them regain credibility. They have actualy had to come out and deny bankruptcy warnings.
Nextel I like because wireless is only beginning....they are a bet for an acquisition down the line.
Even if Cisco stopped making routers, there is so much Cisco hardware out there that they'd be here forever.
Also, if a router works well, you don;t replace it because something alittle better comes out....it isn't economically justifiable for most businesses.
Happy -
Cisco's hardware can screeen applications and filter them accordingly. That's no breakthrough. Are you talking about something from Juniper or Ciena?
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HappyScrappy
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there's always something that is going to be huge - trying to chase it is a losing battle. either get mutual funds or find something that you know will go up some over time and put money into it, but don't look for the stock to make the huge money off of - you might get it, you might not. but the not is far more likely to happen and then you are out big money.
something to think about though. the genome was a big thin, now they are realizing they nee dto sequence the proteins and how they can be folded (The proteome) - so look for companies doing this. they think they can do it in 3-5years. problem here is which company will win? who knows. not me.
another thing, look at the baby boom - fantastic. lots of people. those people are getting older and they are living in a loud society (headphones, cities, cars and public transportation, concerts, etc). there are going to be a lot of deaf people out there in the next 10-20 years, look into what technologies and what companies are doing towards that.
not to mention the drugs these old bastards will take and the companies that supply the shit for the surgeries as well.
generally speaking avoid things like Sony - there is very little profit in electronics like that (chip makers can make money, but sony is having muco problems). also avoid things like the gap and its subsieraries (sp?) - clothing is 1) dangerous b/c it fluctuates too much, and 2) very hard to pull a profit on - esp with people bitchin about sweatshops but still wanting low prices.
something to think about though. the genome was a big thin, now they are realizing they nee dto sequence the proteins and how they can be folded (The proteome) - so look for companies doing this. they think they can do it in 3-5years. problem here is which company will win? who knows. not me.
another thing, look at the baby boom - fantastic. lots of people. those people are getting older and they are living in a loud society (headphones, cities, cars and public transportation, concerts, etc). there are going to be a lot of deaf people out there in the next 10-20 years, look into what technologies and what companies are doing towards that.
not to mention the drugs these old bastards will take and the companies that supply the shit for the surgeries as well.
generally speaking avoid things like Sony - there is very little profit in electronics like that (chip makers can make money, but sony is having muco problems). also avoid things like the gap and its subsieraries (sp?) - clothing is 1) dangerous b/c it fluctuates too much, and 2) very hard to pull a profit on - esp with people bitchin about sweatshops but still wanting low prices.
Pharmaceutcials has the highest profit margin of any industry.
Not investing there is the height of stupidity.
Not investing there is the height of stupidity.
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HappyScrappy
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MattTheSkywalker said:
its in the new wired. the guy that invented TCP/IP and the concept of routers jut came out with a new system and he is saying it will revolutionize everything. of course he will say this - but this is also a very big name in computer/internet.
it isn't just filtering - that is just one of the selling points - it is a smart router that is aware of what each packet is and it uses a different protocol to make it faster and use less repeating (there is a lot of ECC in current TCP/IP).
and wireless may be just the beginning, but my company is a player in telcom, and I can tell you that nextel sucks a fat cock and is worthless. I've programmed for wireless and had to do much research into it - there are plenty of better places to put your money.
lucent is only good b/c it is so cheap now and there is a chance that it will go up - it depends at what ppint you are willing to lose money - Lucent is low enough now that any losses beyond that I wouldn't care as much about. but I'm also not putting money into it right now.
I lost $30K on the stock market (I was up $60K at one point) and I no longer "play" and just dump money into mutual funds. let them do it.
bgdaddysmooth
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Pharmaceuticals is a very lucrative sector, but you got get lucky. These companies invest several years and billions of dollars into a single a drug. So if it busts, you're fucked. I've seen companies who just put the farm on one drug and go bust. You could go with Pfizer or Eli & Lilly, but people are already expecting them to do well. Stocks make their most significant gains when they do well unexpectedly. Remember, a good company is not necessarily a good investment.
PsychoSkitz
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I'm still a net stock man.
EBAY doubled in the last month or so
Scrappy, what's the name of that router company?
EBAY doubled in the last month or so
Scrappy, what's the name of that router company?
AGENT SHAGWELL
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Thanks for all the imput, but it was merely hypothetical....I have no money.....I went to sports authority last night .....and got throughly violated by their perky sales boys.......
Right now, I like large companies that are trading WAY, WAY below their 52-week averages, and have positive outlooks for 2-3 quarters down the road, instead of the next.
I like Dell (DELL), Cisco (CSCO), Pfizer (PFE)--which isn't trading THAT low, but is still a good buy--Palm (PALM), and Yahoo (YHOO)...
I am still a big fan of biotechnology, too, since most companies are trading for pennies right now...Check out Lexicon (LEXG), Immunex (IMNX), and Geron (GERN)...
The more you learn about biotech., the cooler it gets
I like Dell (DELL), Cisco (CSCO), Pfizer (PFE)--which isn't trading THAT low, but is still a good buy--Palm (PALM), and Yahoo (YHOO)...
I am still a big fan of biotechnology, too, since most companies are trading for pennies right now...Check out Lexicon (LEXG), Immunex (IMNX), and Geron (GERN)...
The more you learn about biotech., the cooler it gets
Mdguy: I agree, everything's pretty volatile right now, BUT, with solid companies, the time to buy is now...By waiting until the so-called "experts" say the BULL IS BACK you will be losing precious gains...I just read a long article in Money magazine about jumpin' in approximately 6 months before the market has taken it's biggest turns, and by getting in then, you maximize gains by something crazy like 200%
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