Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have been talking with my training buddies and we decided that the only reason we would ever take steroids would if we decided to compete. All of you guys talk about using this stuff but is it really worth it? I can understand if you are making your living by it, but are the side effects worth it for you people who are just using it to get big? Im just curious, all of this steroid talk is over whelming because there is so much negatitves that I cant imagine the pros equalling or overpowering the cons.
steroids, whats the point
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str8cubano
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if you ever wonder how those models, guys in the magazines, and actors do it...there's your answer. You wanna look good, not nessicarly big, just look good and in shape...well, a choice you have to makd
Black Hamma
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Here's a little somthin I learned in economics 101...the marginal benefit is greater than the marginal cost.
If you aren't stupid about steroid use, and use them in moderation as well as with some wisdom, I don't think anabolics have that many degrading side effects
If you aren't stupid about steroid use, and use them in moderation as well as with some wisdom, I don't think anabolics have that many degrading side effects
Well, I think you should inform yourself a little more about steroids. If you ever decide to use them in the future, go get some knowledge. You have to know yourself very well also. Just visit anabolicreview.com. You'll be able to get some good info about what steroids are all about. I don't want to encourage whatsoever. I think you are great the way you are right now; I kind of like steroids because I'm the type of guy who really obsess with size and muscles: Training is my life!
There is a difference between moderate use and heavy use (even abuse).
I think the side effects of moderate use are more than managable, and absolutely worth it. I wouldn't be using otherwise.
Real use of roids isn't like the ABC afterschool special. The negative things you hear about juice happens far less than you think. The common side affects you hear about:
-Nuts shrink (yes they come back, and even faster with Clomid)
-Acne (Accutane, tanning, etc)
-Hairloss (only if you are prone, and there is DHT blockers like propecia, and the special Nizol (sp?) 2% shampoo)
The short term side effects can be counteracted or at least managed, and the long term side effects are probally less of an issue when you use in moderation.
Or maybe we are all going to die early, but ultimately I think that comes down to Genetics, regardless of what you do to yourself.
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I think the side effects of moderate use are more than managable, and absolutely worth it. I wouldn't be using otherwise.
Real use of roids isn't like the ABC afterschool special. The negative things you hear about juice happens far less than you think. The common side affects you hear about:
-Nuts shrink (yes they come back, and even faster with Clomid)
-Acne (Accutane, tanning, etc)
-Hairloss (only if you are prone, and there is DHT blockers like propecia, and the special Nizol (sp?) 2% shampoo)
The short term side effects can be counteracted or at least managed, and the long term side effects are probally less of an issue when you use in moderation.
Or maybe we are all going to die early, but ultimately I think that comes down to Genetics, regardless of what you do to yourself.
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its definately woth it IMO.....i use to feel like shit when i looked in the mirror.....now i am very happy with myself....and i owe it to steroids and hard training......i think if anyone is serious about bodybuilding/weight training eventually they will turn to steroids......the key is moderation as well as education!!!!
alright well i see where u guys are coming from. I am not criticizing just curious as to why you guys do what you do. Do you guys plan on taking them your whole life? I mean you wouldnt want to use anything for ten years or even five years for that matter, especially something with potentially bad side effects
DeezGunz
You have asked a very good question. The answer is, yes, alot of guys on here do compete or plan to in the future, and that makes it worth it to them. Everyone has to make there own decision. For me, it was easy. I didn't want to get on stage next year and lose, so I started using AS. I didn't know what I was doing and so I started researching and found this board (I still don't know what I'm doing, which explains why I'm on here 2+ hours/day). You'll find alot of info here, but this board can't tell you if AS is right for you. That decision you'll have to make for yourself. Just don't be like some people and judge AS users as people looking for the easy way out. I've found that I'm even more motivated to work out now b/c I feel as though every workout I miss, I've just thrown time, effort and money away.
Alcatraz
You have asked a very good question. The answer is, yes, alot of guys on here do compete or plan to in the future, and that makes it worth it to them. Everyone has to make there own decision. For me, it was easy. I didn't want to get on stage next year and lose, so I started using AS. I didn't know what I was doing and so I started researching and found this board (I still don't know what I'm doing, which explains why I'm on here 2+ hours/day). You'll find alot of info here, but this board can't tell you if AS is right for you. That decision you'll have to make for yourself. Just don't be like some people and judge AS users as people looking for the easy way out. I've found that I'm even more motivated to work out now b/c I feel as though every workout I miss, I've just thrown time, effort and money away.
Alcatraz
thanks alcatraz, that was a very nice post which is appreciated. Very sincere, some people find the need to jump on me and get mad because i asked a simple question in which maybe they thought I meant it in a negative way. But I didnt, I was just curious, I am on the legal stuff right now, hydroxycut. I guess it isnt much in your guys eyes but I dont see me making that leep into the next realm. Alright, thanks alot.
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Citruscide
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bigpimp said:
Yep! I read about this shit for almost a year before I started it... and in the meantime I worked on my diet and workout... so when I did start, I made some pretty awesome gains... and guess what? My dick still works and didn't shrink!
I do feel bad when I'm off... I feel less invincible than usual.
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ultragainz
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juice to the max......
What makes you think the legal stuff is any better for you?
Hyrdroxycut definately has short term side effects, and maybe long term effects.
You either:
1) Use it because you like your results you have gotten from them and don't see the side effects to be as large as the benefits....
OR
2) You feel comfortable taking something that the government decided you are responsible enough to take, and you like the directions on the back that tell you the safe way to take them.
OR
3) You don't want to get caught for doing something illegal.
Well, if you don't recommend steroids, then the only defendable choice is 3.
If you are worried about the illegal aspect, then I can understand why you wouldn't want to do it.
But if it is because of choice 1 or 2, then you are being blinded by the government, and those who don't want you using gear. If you could learn the correct and safe way to use steroids, then you would feel just as comfortable as using your Hyrdroxycut. And they work a hell of alot better for the money.
Hyrdroxycut definately has short term side effects, and maybe long term effects.
You either:
1) Use it because you like your results you have gotten from them and don't see the side effects to be as large as the benefits....
OR
2) You feel comfortable taking something that the government decided you are responsible enough to take, and you like the directions on the back that tell you the safe way to take them.
OR
3) You don't want to get caught for doing something illegal.
Well, if you don't recommend steroids, then the only defendable choice is 3.
If you are worried about the illegal aspect, then I can understand why you wouldn't want to do it.
But if it is because of choice 1 or 2, then you are being blinded by the government, and those who don't want you using gear. If you could learn the correct and safe way to use steroids, then you would feel just as comfortable as using your Hyrdroxycut. And they work a hell of alot better for the money.
the_only_sepe
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you keep right on training naturally and eventually you will realize,
"hey I cant get any bigger" Ive realized my self, and I used to look down on steroids, now they are my friends, we will see you soon posting for first cycle help!! lol
"hey I cant get any bigger" Ive realized my self, and I used to look down on steroids, now they are my friends, we will see you soon posting for first cycle help!! lol
see the reason we do it is hard to explain but i will try. there are a few guys out there who are always striving to be the best well we strive to be the biggest and the strongest. some want to make money off it and some want fame but most just want to be able to have self exceptance and be able to say im big enough or strong enough for me i dont think that will ever come but that is what i will spend the rest of my life striving for
GaTeCrAsHeR2000
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to each his own, people use steroids for different reasons
well thanks for all the replies. I use hydroxycut because I want to get cut and look athletic. I would like t have some bulk so it shows that I work hard for what I have, but I dont want to look too bulky. I dont think you will be seeing any posts for my first cycle, but if I ever did, I would make sure to ask you guys. The reason I wouldnt do steroids is because I am not looking to be huge, I just want to look good, six pack, you know, athletic like a basketball player, not bulky and ripped like ronnie coleman. If anyone care I have been taking hydroxycut for the past 2 weeks and it is actually working very well. I have lost about 7 pounds of fat. The last time I was on a fat burner I was running for like a half hour every other day and i saw no results. Now I am running for an hour every other day or every third day and I am seeing lots of results. I guess you cant stop at that half hour mark, thats when you got to push, the time after the half hour mark is when you are really burning the fat. Well, thanks alot people, write back if you got something to let me know.
solidspine
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DeezGunz
The gear is only one part of the equation, which includes, knowledge, training, dieting, rest, hard work and discipline.
I have experienced only minimal short term temporary side affects, and phenomenal gains in the past five years.
I am 51 years old, 5’5”, low body fat, and 173# and in better condition (in every measurable way) than when I was 21 years old.
The gear is only one part of the equation, which includes, knowledge, training, dieting, rest, hard work and discipline.
I have experienced only minimal short term temporary side affects, and phenomenal gains in the past five years.
I am 51 years old, 5’5”, low body fat, and 173# and in better condition (in every measurable way) than when I was 21 years old.
Silent Method
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I could push my car to work but I'd rather drive it.
Yes, steroids are a short cut. But they are not magic. They will not help you to reach your goals unless you work your ass off.
Yes, they do have side effect. Thats why this board is here, to help us understand and control the risks. Many intellegent people refuse to use them. Many intellegent people embrace them...
Yes, steroids are a short cut. But they are not magic. They will not help you to reach your goals unless you work your ass off.
Yes, they do have side effect. Thats why this board is here, to help us understand and control the risks. Many intellegent people refuse to use them. Many intellegent people embrace them...
your replies have been very helpful. Actuallly I was taking hydroxycut for a couple of weeks and was doing very well on it. But it seems that everytime i start taking supplements I break out. And it is without a doubt the supplements, or just a very amazing coincidence. So now I stopped using it. A few little pimples are no big deal, but it got a little out of hand so I had to shut it down. You know why this is, I guess I am just unlucky.
i think u should stick with your ideaq of not using unless u want to compete. i personally, dont think all the shit i put up with on roids, would be worth it, if i was just tryin to look good. once im done with competeing, ill be done with steroids. im not tryin to knock on any of u who dont compete.
Thaibox
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I researched juice for 2 years before I touched it. Decided I was knowledgable enough to make an educated decision. I don't smoke or drink and my diet is great. I gaurantee that smart juicers who know what they're doing and dedicate themselves to all aspects of BBing are(and will continue to be) much healthier than 95% of the population.
And, I do so much cardio in training, that if I didn't have gear to help, I would shrivel up and be crushed ny the monsters in my sport.
And, I do so much cardio in training, that if I didn't have gear to help, I would shrivel up and be crushed ny the monsters in my sport.
I just wanna look cool like you guys!! LOL
I compete and if you aren't taking anything then it is making it impossible for yourself to do good. I also have a self esteem problem and it also gets me though that. People have there reasons, plus everything else seems to kill you, so you can at least look good dying right?
I compete and if you aren't taking anything then it is making it impossible for yourself to do good. I also have a self esteem problem and it also gets me though that. People have there reasons, plus everything else seems to kill you, so you can at least look good dying right?
well, i dont think it makes any sense to take it if you are not going to be competing. But I guess I can understand where some of you are coming from. However it is not impossible to look good without using steroids. Lots of people dont use steroids and look very muscular, but there is an obvious difference between juicers and non juicers. But juicing is the easy way out, and eventually you will stop using it and shrink down to nothing. So I dont know how long you plan on pumping the stuff into you because you are so self conscious but in reality there are other things u can to do look better instead of pumping uneccassary and illegal substances into your body.
MrLoVeRlOvEr
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First off ,you wont shrink down to nothing!
Secondly i believe if used with caution it won't cause much damage. There is big difference with people taking steroids and
and some one abusing it.
Third..and i quote...why drink alcohol every weekend???...
i have friends who smoke a 20packs a day, you think they're not doing more damage to their body?
And finally i am puzzled as to why you would come on the board if you are even gonna use the stuff?
Secondly i believe if used with caution it won't cause much damage. There is big difference with people taking steroids and
and some one abusing it.
Third..and i quote...why drink alcohol every weekend???...
i have friends who smoke a 20packs a day, you think they're not doing more damage to their body?
And finally i am puzzled as to why you would come on the board if you are even gonna use the stuff?
DeezGunz said:
You don't shrink down to nothing. If you understand Bodybuilding and have busted your ass for years naturally and studied and read eveything you can get your hands on, you will keep most of your gains.
The people that shrink to nothing when they come off are those who rely completely on the drugs and train and diet like shit. The only reason these people make gains is because of the drugs.
You can often spot some of these guys at the gym: They are larger than average with a bad posture, weird looking muscle, and they train like total shit throwing weights around with no attention to form and no structured workouts. Once they come off, all the clomid in the world won't stop them from becoming little bitches again...
Im on 6th week of first cycle and have no side effects exept my nuts have turned to raisins but that actually turned out to be good also cause it makes my pecker look bigger. Im taking 500mg of sust and 400mg of deca and my joints have never felt better and I went from 211 to 230 so far and my lifts have went through the roof! I did my homework on this board for 6 months before i did first cycle and I think AS can actually be good for you if you dont go overboard. Oh yea you will be on AS soon.
Reason i use them is simple, let me explain:
before aas after aas
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no girls any girl i want
less confidence lots of confidence
moderate self esteem high self esteem
less motivation to work out take one week off every 2mo.
thats enough for me, and you say i have stupid reasoning for that and i should not need aas to achieve what i have but it worked and i did!!
before aas after aas
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no girls any girl i want
less confidence lots of confidence
moderate self esteem high self esteem
less motivation to work out take one week off every 2mo.
thats enough for me, and you say i have stupid reasoning for that and i should not need aas to achieve what i have but it worked and i did!!
i didnt mean to offend anyone. I guess its just a personal choice. Personally I still believe that it only makes sense to take it if you plan on making a living off of it. Thats just my opinion though, and obviously you guys have your own. I will continue to use this board for diet info and exercise info though, I do not come for the info on drugs, but like they say, different strokes for different folks.
